Capturing/Importing 1080 from a 'P2 Card' Panasonic HVX200

CarpentersMate wrote on 8/2/2023, 2:01 AM

Hi Gang

Although this is an older camera, was just wondering if anyone's tried editing the native file content off a P2 card, (from a Panasonic HVX200)? There's a You Tube link below, which explains capture and edit, (but its directed toward using a Mac). I've had this camera for some time, (I'm content with 1080), but I'd prefer (and) enjoy using Magix in my PC. Considering the earlier format and capture limitations, it might be a hassle (or) require several steps?

(OR)

Here's another tutorial for PC? (skip ahead to an hour and 12 minutes for capture info)

Thank You!

 

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johnebaker wrote on 8/2/2023, 11:23 AM

@CarpentersMate

Hi Mike

It would appear that this camera records in DVC Pro 50, HD and DV formats, none of which are supported by MEP 2016 - you would need to convert them to a supported format.

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

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CarpentersMate wrote on 8/2/2023, 11:20 PM

Hi John - Thanx for the reply ..

I suppose I might be able to connect the camera via its IEEE1394 port to the PCI port on my PC, (the method I've used reliably for SD Video), drag the file into a windows folder, then hopefully convert using 'Wondershare?' An inherent problem with this method 'could' be the camera's older/slower technology permitting a 'slower transfer speed'? I guess its worth a try considering the camera has varied professional features? Do you think there 'could' be a loss of visual detail or resolution after the conversion? Is there a more current MEP program that would support DVC Pro 50?

Thank You

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Former user wrote on 8/3/2023, 12:20 AM

Is there a more current MEP program that would support DVC Pro 50?

Thank You

@CarpentersMate Hi, could you share a sample? put the relevant files in a folder & drag onto Google Drive, then right click on it - Share (anyone with this link) ,then post the link on here using the chain button at the top of a new comment.

CarpentersMate wrote on 8/3/2023, 2:00 AM

Hello Gid (nice to see you again)

"could you share a sample?"

I'll need a few days; (still gathering some used equip off ebay).

Thank You!

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johnebaker wrote on 8/3/2023, 2:16 AM

@CarpentersMate

Hi Mike

. . . . Is there a more current MEP program that would support DVC Pro 50? . . .

Video Pro X15 supports DVCPro, there is a small fee for the codec in addition to the extra cost of the program - you should qualify for the Upgrade price already having MEP 2016.

There is always the chance of loss of detail in conversion depending on the format and bitrate you convert to, you would have to test this eg convert to AVI and h.264/AVC (MP4) at 28 Mb/s and compare the resulting videos.

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

CarpentersMate wrote on 8/3/2023, 2:36 AM

Hi John

"convert to AVI and h.264/AVC (MP4) at 28 Mb/s and compare the resulting videos"

Roger that ...

Could both programs run compatibly within the same system? Could you draw any 'comparison' as to how/which format/layout Video Pro X15 compares to? The 'Vegas Layout' ? Final Cut?

A page from the HVX200 manuel:

Thank you

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johnebaker wrote on 8/3/2023, 3:02 AM

@CarpentersMate

Hi Mike

From the image above

Working over USB directly with the camera is not recommended and may not be possible as MEP creates support files (.H0 and .HDP) which are stored in the same location as the source video files.

If you have a P2 Store this would work as an external drive however it connects as USB2 and you still have to convert the video if not using VPX and there is still the issue of the support files - the P2 does not allow for writing from the PC

The IEE 1394 capture to a supported format would appear to be the easiest option however this is also going to be slow.

HTH

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

Former user wrote on 8/3/2023, 4:00 AM

@CarpentersMate Hi, no worries I found a DVCPRO HD online, 👍

CarpentersMate wrote on 8/3/2023, 4:30 AM

Hi John

"If you have a P2 Store" You were referring to additional P2 cards as in this Link > STORAGE?

I suspected this disappointing information. More than likely why so many HVX200's eventually bit the dust. However I'm also amazed at the HIGH price retention of those used P2 cards on ebay. Its unbelievable how only a 62GB P2 used card goes for $160-$250! SD cards of larger capacity are a fraction of the cost. There's a limited number of users who remain interested in this camera probably due to its professional features and ability to also use SD tapes. This LINK explains how/why users were able to manage P2 files. Shame it isn't also designed for PC compatibility ...

"IEE 1394 capture to a supported format would appear to be the easiest option" Yes thank you I suspected that. 'IEE 1394' would be faster than USB 2.0 (but) perhaps still slower than USB 3.0?

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johnebaker wrote on 8/3/2023, 12:03 PM

@CarpentersMate

Hi Mike

. . . . "If you have a P2 Store" You were referring to additional P2 cards used as STORAGE? . . . .

I was referring to the external USB drive / P2 card reader device for which the software you linked to can be used.

I had a similar device - different make - many years ago for back up camera photos and videos.

DVC Pro video encoding format was developed for the pro market tape based cameras and is based on the earlier DV format, it is still used on some pro cameras however card storage has taken over the tape formats. The P2 cards are as you have commented been superseded by SD and micro SD cards which have higher capacities, have higher bitrate capabilities and cheaper than the P2 cards - I am using Samsung Evo plus 256GB, 130Mb/s microSD cards.

John EB

 

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VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

CarpentersMate wrote on 8/3/2023, 3:04 PM

Yes Thanx John 😉

I'll be posting a sample P2 file for Gid soon ...

 

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