Hey There Gid!

Yes (thank you) I got the camera to use 29.97 (unless I'm missing something), the end result in REC MODE, choosing 'iFrame-MP4', also reduced the resolution to 960X540

When I went back to REC MODE and chose 'MP4-50MM' it returned to 1080 @ 59.94

@CarpentersMate Hi, the pdf's do seem to be a bit vague reg frame rate, trial & will be the way it seems 😁👍

Would you start using MediaInfo pls, it's no harder than posting pictures of Properties like you've been doing but shows much better details 👍

The App called MediaInfo, download it, it's free & a fast download with no added adverts or any of that rubbish. https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo

After downloading, right click on the media file in your Windows folder, open MediaInfo, choose Text from the options at the top, Copy & paste the information in a new comment on here 👍

Like this -

Or you can enlarge the window so it shows all info & take a screen capture like you've been doing with the Properties pictures like this 👍

@CarpentersMate @AAProds Hi, agreed a little misunderstanding there, @testataan says "higher fps gives better motion sharpness", this isn't referring to slow motion, yes you'd get a better video if you slowed 59.94 down compared to 29.97, but the motion sharpness is more about what you call 'smoother texture', If something is moving on screen or you pan the camera around more frames are created @ 59.94 compared to 29.97 so the flow will be less jerky. I test it by holding the camera straight forward & then turning 360º, you get less motion blur & each frame blends into the next better @ 59.94 compared to 29.97.

I film in 59.94 more often now esp if there's movement in some way because my PC can handle that, but 29.97 is more than adequate for general filming, @ 59.94 there's twice as many frames for MMS & your PC to have to work with compared to 29.97

I'm always curious about this because I often see 24fps mentioned,my Boris plugins are default 24fps & Googling "standard movie frame rate" -

This discusses frame rate https://www.premiumbeat.com/blog/advanced-look-into-frame-rates/#:~:text=Universally%2C%2024fps%20is%20accepted%20as,are%20twenty%2Dfour%20individual%20stills.

Google - '

Are movies shot in 60fps?

24 fps is the standard because it is a good balance between motion smoothing and preserving the "film look." 60 fps can make videos look too smooth and lose the natural motion blur, making it look less cinematic."

You are right.
A higher refresh rate is better, because its movement is smoother (read: nicer to look at) and it is used e.g. TV broadcasts e.g. in Europe 50fps (Pana 770 can also change it to 50fps via the hidden Service menu).
On the other hand, it (50fps or 59,94fps)) is also better in slow motion, because there are more accurate images and the movement can be slowed down more, without it becoming clearly jerky.

I believe that the 24fps in movies was because the film material was so expensive and fast shutter mechanism difficult to do.

I sometimes shoot 4K/25fps (not Pana 770), but every time I put it on (e.g. FullHD or 4k) youtube, I change (when exporting) it to 50fps with MEP (it puts two identical frame in a row).

=>from that you can see that only 50p is good, when shooting with Panosonin v770
Panasonic HC-v770 (EU ) Recording mode:
1080/50p (28Mbps / VBR), (1920 x 1080/50p)
PH (24Mbps / VBR), (1920 x 1080/50i)
HA (17Mbps / VBR), (1920 x 1080/50i)
HG (13Mbps / VBR), (1920 x 1080/50i)
HE (5Mbps / VBR), (1920 x 1080/50i)
MP4/1080p(50M) (50Mbps / VBR), (1920 x 1080/50p)
MP4/1080p(28M) (28Mbps / VBR), (1920 x 1080/50p)
MP4/720p(9M) (9Mbps / VBR), (1280 x 720/25p)
iFrame (28Mbps / VBR), (960 x 540/25p)

Hey There Gid!

Yes (thank you) I got the camera to use 29.97 (unless I'm missing something), the end result in REC MODE, choosing 'iFrame-MP4', also reduced the resolution to 960X540

When I went back to REC MODE and chose 'MP4-50MM' it returned to 1080 @ 59.94

What I gathered from a 20 minute Brutal Review, was that the camera, (although having a decent visual resolution), also possesses an annoying 'counter-intuitive' 'Menu' that isn't 100% accurate. Including a possible inability to adjust the audio level using an external Mic? We'll see? All isn't lost' I can always record the audio using Audacity on a separate PC (sync later), I do it all the time 😬 Its a straight shot interview ...

I've accepted the camera's quirks. My question now is: Since my material is an odd mixture of 25,23,30 and 29, (public domain news etc), would it be possible/acceptable for MEP to export/transfer the entire LOT into an MP4 @ 29.97 (do not adjust)? Or other suggestions ....😦 So sorry for the unexpected annoying complexities 😳

Thanks Loads!

Mike

at 1:12... the sound settings are shown and at 1:30 the sound level adjustment.

Your other mic is good for that too (as your Panasonic: I have found Pana's mic to be fine, as long as it is in the right distance from the speakers (right recording level), you can get more easily a wind shield for it, but doesn't it use Phantom power? I'm almost certain Panasonic doesn't support Phantom (48v) power.

As I said before, by putting headphones in the headphone jack (or just its 3.5mm plug). You can bring up "the microphone / headphones icon", which you can press to directly adjust the recording level (also when you shoot)..
You can also use it to adjust the sound level of the external mic.

Hello testataan (nice to see you again). And thanx for ALL your help. Yes you were the 1st person to mention the strange 'Headphone Journey' (which acts a prompt to bring up some techincal adjustments that would have been impossible to find). I've been following the You Tube Dude (he's a bit annoying - complains quite a bit) without explaining some things clearly, and leaves out IMPORTANT facts, procedures etc. Nevertheless I got the picture: And discovered the entire (Disadvanted Audio Section) The Video is FABULOUS but brother Panasonic really messed up the audio section and self screen inability to tape oneself with the LCD facing forward which cancels out EVERYTING. I've been working with the camera and haven't given up on it. I really like the Video Quality and the 50X zoom is excellent.

BTW I'm a 75 year old musician/recording technician, historian and filmmaker. I gathered dramatic interviews: video taped more than 55 American veterans all over the country who never had a chance to talk about the war in North Africa (where my Dad served time).I also made a trip to Dresden in 2010 to speak with a dozen German veterans of the Afrika Korp. Check out my web site..I accomplished all this including staged re-creations (when I had my health). Things are very difficult now, sometimes impossible but I'm greatful to be alive and found a home here with the guys at Magix. I'm content and relieved I was able to reach those men (most of whom have died).

Back to the camera: my plan to deal with the poor audio: The camera's fidelity, (even with a high end amplified Lapel is basically a waste of time). The internal Mic is probably ok (not great), for street talk but never for serious interviews. I plan on recording the main audio with a battery powered Audio Technica Lapel Mic fed through my board then fed into a PC, recording a 2nd separate sound track. I'll manually sync the main audio in post.

I'll deal with the mixed format in this project and whatever the HV-C770 throws out. I'm sure MEP will dice it up in Post. .

@ $1500 My old 2008 Panasonic AG-DVX100 had far superior adjustments and features.I still kept an old Panasonic DVXC Pro Full Featured SD&HD Version but it just sits there because I'd need conversion software and a specific Mac OS environment, (too much hassle).

Thanks again my friend! Best Regards!

Survivors' Stories North Africa 1941

Hello testataan (nice to see you again). And thanx for ALL your help. Yes you were the 1st person to mention the strange 'Headphone Journey' (which acts a prompt to bring up some techincal adjustments that would have been impossible to find). I've been following the You Tube Dude (he's a bit annoying - complains quite a bit) without explaining some things clearly, and leaves out IMPORTANT facts, procedures etc. Nevertheless I got the picture: And discovered the entire (Disadvanted Audio Section) The Video is FABULOUS but brother Panasonic really messed up the audio section and self screen inability to tape oneself with the LCD facing forward which cancels out EVERYTING. I've been working with the camera and haven't given up on it. I really like the Video Quality and the 50X zoom is excellent.

BTW I'm a 75 year old musician/recording technician, historian and filmmaker. I gathered dramatic interviews: video taped more than 55 American veterans all over the country who never had a chance to talk about the war in North Africa (where my Dad served time).I also made a trip to Dresden in 2010 to speak with a dozen German veterans of the Afrika Korp. Check out my web site..I accomplished all this including staged re-creations (when I had my health). Things are very difficult now, sometimes impossible but I'm greatful to be alive and found a home here with the guys at Magix. I'm content and relieved I was able to reach those men (most of whom have died).

Back to the camera: my plan to deal with the poor audio: The camera's fidelity, (even with a high end amplified Lapel is basically a waste of time). The internal Mic is probably ok (not great), for street talk but never for serious interviews. I plan on recording the main audio with a battery powered Audio Technica Lapel Mic fed through my board then fed into a PC, recording a 2nd separate sound track. I'll manually sync the main audio in post.

I'll deal with the mixed format in this project and whatever the HV-C770 throws out. I'm sure MEP will dice it up in Post. .

@ $1500 My old 2008 Panasonic AG-DVX100 had far superior adjustments and features.I still kept an old Panasonic DVXC Pro Full Featured SD&HD Version but it just sits there because I'd need conversion software and a specific Mac OS environment, (too much hassle).

Thanks again my friend! Best Regards!

Survivors' Stories North Africa 1941

I didn't listen to that DUDE's narration at all (my language skills are bad), but I saw that it shows how to adjust the sound => I thought it would help you move forward.
The Panasonic 770 is very good in FullHD (for the price-quality ratio of its time), I have written a few articles about Panasonic cameras.

Beauty is "in the eye of the beholder", so a 50x zoom is good for you.
-Technically speaking, I hardly ever use 50xzoom myself (only when I made an article, I tried the 50xzoom function and its effect on technical image quality). It (50xZoom) is really useful when you shoot from an LCD screen and you want to see what is further away.
When shooting at 20xzoom, you can capture much more than at a very strictly limited 50zoom.

I think it's great that history is being recorded for posterity.
-There seem to be more of us "oldies".
(Nice to see Alwyn, it's a shame that the 24-kuvaa "effect" doesn't work OK anymore with MMS)

Here too, the sound quality is "in the listener's ear". I agree with you that PANA's internal Mickey isn't the best (it could use a bit more dynamics), but it's good enough (not so good as a mic for a professional camera) good even for recording music, as long as the most important thing (as you know: the mic is close enough to its sound source) is fine. I also shooting bands and often get the sounds from them on the mixing desk, so I've been able to compare.

In live videos, I often use a combination of both (mixer + Pana), if at all it is possible. Not always, because Pana ONLY has a -30dB sound level reduction option. That's why I still often have an external recorder.

In interviews, the "problem" is that Pana's mics also pick up sound from their surroundings, so if you want top-notch sound, I understand your desire to use a mic that is attached to the interviewee.
I myself have (partly out of laziness) almost given up using an external mic. Thinking that we hear those background voices even in a normal conversation.

MEP has a function with which you can get the sounds directly synchronized to the upper sound track. Unfortunately it doesn't always work, but it's worth a try, it's so much easier.
MEP supports Panasonic 770 formats well and has good sound editing functions for its price range.