I assume that i would need H265 codec or is there any other solution ? Would H265 be available form Magix ?
Hi and welcome to the user to user forums.
VPX has H265 encoders and decoders built in. There may be another problem with the file type.
If you could download and use MediaInfo and post the results here from the text view of the program we might be able to see what the problem is. I know there has been problems reported on this site in the past regarding Canon log files.
Ray.
Here is the actual error from Video Pro X 15: MXMPEG2 Error 0801: cannot initialize Intel decoder
And below you find Mediainfo text:
General
Complete name : D:\Kuvia ja videoita\EOS R6MK2\5L7A8413.MP4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42 (mp42/hvc1/CAEP)
File size : 116 MiB
Duration : 5 s 880 ms
Overall bit rate : 166 Mb/s
Frame rate : 25.000 FPS
Encoded date : 2023-12-01 07:36:52 UTC
Tagged date : 2023-12-01 07:36:52 UTC
Video
ID : 1
Format : HEVC
Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile : Format Range@L5.1@High
Codec ID : hvc1
Codec ID/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration : 5 s 880 ms
Bit rate : 165 Mb/s
Width : 3 840 pixels
Height : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 25.000 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2
Bit depth : 10 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.795
Stream size : 116 MiB (99%)
Language : English
Encoded date : 2023-12-01 07:36:52 UTC
Tagged date : 2023-12-01 07:36:52 UTC
Color range : Full
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Codec configuration box : hvcC
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
Duration : 5 s 867 ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 256 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 181 KiB (0%)
Language : English
Encoded date : 2023-12-01 07:36:52 UTC
Tagged date : 2023-12-01 07:36:52 UTC
Other
ID : 3
Type : Time code
Format : QuickTime TC
Duration : 5 s 880 ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 25.000 FPS
Time code of first frame : 00:00:22:05
Time code of last frame : 00:00:28:01
Time code, stripped : No
Language : English
Encoded date : 2023-12-01 07:36:52 UTC
Tagged date : 2023-12-01 07:36:52 UTC
I have also used Canon EOS R with C-LOG (8-bit) and it worked fine. This video with current problem is taken with Canon EOS R6MK2 C-LOG 3 (10 bit). If you are interested to compare EOS R file with EOS R6MK2 file i will send it too.
Hi.
Thanks for the additional info.
As far as I can tell there is nothing wrong with the video file itself but will ask @johnebaker to check as he has more experience than me with looking at 10 bit log files. There is the QuickTime tag in the exif data but I think that is normal for this type of file.
However the program error waning suggests a hardware failure to complete the task of reading the file.
What Intel GPU are you using? if you have more than one GPU on your system try disabling the intel one in the program and change the settings to use something else.
Changing from 8 to 10 bit log is a huge difference in in the processing power required.
It may also help at this point to give a complete system specification of your system due to that error warning.
Ray.
Hello. I use the Canon R6MkII, including the original R6, as well as the Canon R7. All shoot with Canon C-Log3, and the supplied Media Info is similar to what mine report (though mine would be 23.976 or 29.970 - NTSC land).
My question would be if @JussiK downloaded and installed the HEVC software from Canon's site, specific to the camera. Each one uses the camera body Serial Number to activate. And no, he/she does not need to install Canon's DPP4 (Digital Photo Professional) software, unless they are inclined to use it instead of say LightRoom/Photoshop/Luminar/etc.
Additionally, the other issue is that both Nvidia and AMD DO NOT have hardware acceleration for 4:2:2 10-bit files (does not matter the camera), just Intel. Though one must wonder how this turn of events unfolded since the aforementioned companies were all at the "Design/Development" table for H.265/HEVC, and everyone who wants to use this particular CODEC, has to pay Intel.
I use VEGAS Pro Edit 20 on my computer, but with having an All-AMD Threadripper system, no way to utilize the Intel architecture for Decoding/Encoding the CLOG3 footage, though their (VEGAS Pro) current software Decoder opens it and plays, albeit at about 1/2 frame per 2-5 seconds 😥 And the basic of DaVinci Resolve 18.6.3, won't even consider trying to open. So, using Shutter Encoder, I transcode the footage to Apple ProRes 422, which edits fast and smooth. Though, I do not know if Magix Video Pro X or Magix Movie Studio open those types of files, Shutter Encoder can transcode to DNxHD/HR; GoPro Cineform; Uncompressed; and even H.264 (none of which I use since Apple ProRes works extremely fine on my systems).
Happy Editing!
Thank you for this additional information.
Do you know if loading the Canon HEVC file can cause any problems with the Windows / Magix versions if loaded for other non canon HEVC files?
Ray.
All,
This Link will provide a Canon R6MkII CLog3 file, approximately 545 MB in size.
The above screen shot is from Canon's DPP4 program, with additional camera settings used during the shoot. You can get the MediaInfo for the file above, should you already have MediaArea.net's MediaInfo installed (I believe one of our contributors has provided a link and installation guide - search for it!)
@CubeAce Hi Ray, I do not think this causes any issues with other HEVC codecs, as it is installed on both computers listed in my signature, and as you can see, a variety of GoPro cameras that I use. I believe it is to "initialize" the CODEC for the camera, and for viewing the file within DPP4 itself in its viewer.
Oh, and please forgive the crappy focusing at the time. Was dealing with the mass amounts of people, including the family next to me while setting up the camera for the parade. But hey, what a wonderful job the camera/lens did at auto-focusing on that stanchion ball!😏
Again, thank you for the information which is greatly appreciated at my end.
In case I don't remember all of this for future reference I have bookmarked your profile. My experience of Canon cameras is zilch.
You certainly have a lot of gear and apps. I hope it keeps you busy.
Ray.
Strange. Apart from ProRes 10 Bit 4:2:2, this is the first 10 Bit 4:2:2 file that I can open with image and sound in VDL 2022 (MEP 2022).
Otherwise 10 bit files only work with 4:2:0 in my version.
@Former user, @JussiK
Hi
. . . . that file played without problem in MMS & Vegas Pro 21 (& VPX14) . . . .
Re-reading the original post, according to the version number in the title of this topic, Video Pro X 15.05.213 was the last patch for Video Pro X8.
According to VPX8 specifications, HEVC is not supported, nor is 10 bit or Chroma Sampling 4:2:2 video.
John EB
@Former user
Yeah, it opens fine in VEGAS Pro 20 (411) without proxies or transcoding, but is definitely not the best editing experience. Therefore, I transcode out to Apple ProRes 422 with Shutter Encoder. I prefer that method, compared to creating proxies, then toggle on - toggle off. Was not sure about the Magix Video Pro/Movie Studio line-up, as I do not have any version of those. Used Sony/Magix Movie Studio HD/Platinum/Suite from versions 10 through 17, and now have just stayed with VEGAS Pro Edit. Don't need the fancy things anymore, and HitFilm has really disappointed since being bought out by Artlist, so have not installed for close to 4 years now, as I saw the decline way back then.
Have not purchased Version 21 yet, as I have enough projects using 18/19/20 for now, and need to finish them before another upgrade. Still thinking about possibly getting the Magix Movie Studio Suite, or even Video Pro X, possibly when Humble Bundle has a sale, just to try either/or out. I've seen a lot of John Brown's tutorials, which though not having MMS or VPX, does help in thought process for editing and ideas. Plus, you can't beat Bernadette's Acting Chops and on-screen presence!😃
Glad the info helped. Guess I do have some gear, but like a lot on these forums, when retired, we got to find some way to keep ourselves occupied. Plus, I'd rather spend my money, then expect Politicians to know what to do with it! And keep up your work. I do watch a lot of your videos, know you use Nikon, and have a done a great job helping out in the forum. And, I am waiting for you to post an updated "Christmas Run" (? - the one's where it shows the show around the docks - if this old brain is remembering correctly). Love the nostalgic feel, and music!
Mike
I don't have VPX installed (only MMS 2024) and that file has black video here (audio OK).
Hi.
The Santa Fun Run is tomorrow morning (Just 11 hours away) I will see what I can do. Locally at the moment it is thick freezing fog.
Ray.
Then @JussiK you will have to buy a new Version.
And probably the right computer hardware too.
Or continue working with 8 bits.
@Former user @mmcswnavy24 @Marc-Goder @johnebaker @JussiK @AAProds
Hi all.
I just had time to download that test file. It played back just fine on both VPX 14 and MEP 2022.
I had no need to create proxy files or reduce frame rate or play it with decreased resolution.
First time I have ever seen my system use with all 16 CPU cores never going below 67% peaking around 80 with one core constantly at 100% usage, or the Intel HD 630 work so hard at around a constant 84 %. No help what so ever from the nvidia GPU. If I'm honest I would say playback was a tad better in MEP 2022. In VPX there was a slight jump each time the loop restarted.
Ray.
@johnebaker wrote:
Re-reading the original post, according to the version number in the title of this topic, Video Pro X 15.05.213 was the last patch for Video Pro X8.
If that's true, it needs a new Version. And its hardware must meet the specifications for Magix Software with the new Fusion Engine 3.
Mark, my apologies, I read them to have VPX 15. They've got VPX 8 by the looks so yes, I agree, JussiK needs to upgrade their VPX. 👍
Hi Al
. . . . I don't have VPX installed (only MMS 2024) and that file has black video here (audio OK) . . . .
Do you have Qucktime installed? The video works fine with both VPX 15 and MMS 2024.
. . . . Marc, @JussiK already has the latest version of VPX . . . .
Not with the version number quoted, VPX 15 is currently 21.0.1.198
@JussiK can you confirm the full name of the program as seen under Help, About please?
John EB
Do you have Qucktime installed? The video works fine with both VPX 15 and MMS 2024.
Yes I do. I'm thinking that the VPX installation in your computers is enabling the opening of that file.
Not with the version number quoted, VPX 15 is currently 21.0.1.198
Copied, already apologised-for in the post above yours. 😉
@CubeAce @mmcswnavy24 @AAProds
I downloaded HEVC from Canon but there was no change. Also downloaded Canon DPP4 and found that it can handle C-LOG3 files easily, including 4K, so i think the problem is not on the hardware.
Anyway GPU is NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1650 Super and CPU is 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-12400F 2.50 GHz, Windows 11 Home
Btw. VLC player opens C-LOG3 -files. Full HD seems ok, but 4K is really choppy.
Which Magix version do you have now? VPX 8 can not yet import HEVC 10 bit.
Pro X 15.05.213 is VPX 8.