Camera compatibility with Magix software

lindeanlad wrote on 1/19/2023, 4:19 AM

Hi there, I have just upgraded my video camera to a Sony FDR-AX700, and would like to know if it is compatible with Magix editing programmes.

 

Also, I have in the past used Magix Movie Edit Pro, and was wondering if the new Magix Movie Studio software is configured along similar lines as the Movie Edit Pro.

 

Thanks for any advice you might be able to give me.

 

Cheers,

John

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AAProds wrote on 1/19/2023, 4:37 AM

@lindeanlad

To answer your second question first, yes, Movie Edit Pro has had a "rebrand" (long and dubious story) and is now named Magix Movie Studio. It is basically the same as the last few versions and you will have no trouble feeling at home with the latest iteration. Magix has changed a lot under the hood though and the latest version has greatly sped-up handling and export of HD and UHD/4k (as your camera shoots), provided you have a well-specced machine ie fast Intel CPU with integrated graphics and a separate NVidia GPU.

To your first question, the experts will help you out with the compatibility of the higher-end shooting formats. Suffice to say MMS will easily deal with 8bit HD and UHD/4k video, better still if shot in constant frame-rate format.

Full (Australian) specs are here:

https://www.sony.com.au/electronics/handycam-camcorders/fdr-ax700/specifications

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

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Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

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RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 v22H2

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

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Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

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CubeAce wrote on 1/19/2023, 5:22 AM

@lindeanlad

Hi.

You will probably have upgrade to Video Pro X if you wish to use recorded files at 10 or 12 bit as MEP and Movie Studio only handle files with an 8 bit depth dynamic range and does not cope with HDR content. Even then it may be difficult to see any difference if your system monitor is not capable of accurately displaying the difference in dynamic range that such files produce. 12 bit files in theory would produce files with dynamic ranges well beyond most monitors abilities to display such files accurately and would be a considerable strain on any computer system to process needing quite high end components to run smoothly.

Ray.

 

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lindeanlad wrote on 1/19/2023, 8:53 AM

Many thanks for the advice/tips - greatly appreciate the speed (and the quality) of your replies!

 

CubeAce wrote on 1/19/2023, 9:26 AM

@lindeanlad

Hi.

The camera specs as posted by Al show that the camera only needs to use memory cards that can write to 100MB/s or over which by today's standards is not that high. That means that to get that much information into such a low data stream a lot of encoding is being done by the cameras' own BIONZ X image processor which has only dedicated functions. The software and computer components on the other hand are more generalised. How much more powerful a system needs to be would probably be better answered by people who own other Sony camcorders like @johnebaker who will have a better grasp of this than myself. The only benefits of shooting at higher bit depths for a given resolution is dynamic range of shadow to highlight and colour depth and the ability to bring shadow areas and blown highlight areas back into a normal viewable dynamic range. Only those watching such videos with a similar abilities of viewing will get the full benefit of such files if not regraded to a lower bit depth for a more general viewing experience. In general, at the moment shooting at 10 bit or 12 bit is more about future proofing content shot or if needed rendered to the same specifications. A lot of production decisions rest on the shoulders of the person making the video.

Ray.

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Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5011

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 560.81 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

johnebaker wrote on 1/19/2023, 10:04 AM

@lindeanlad, @AAProds

Hi

I have the FDR- AX53E - both cameras record in the Sony XAVC-S format in MP4 container file and these import - no extra codec needed, at 4K 100MB/s providing your computer specification is sufficiently powerful enough to handle the amount of data and datarate - see my signature for my PC and laptop specs.

The AX700 has the advantage of being able to shoot in the Sony S Log 3 colour profile which, when used with the downloadable S-Log3 LUT from Sony, gives a colour profile very close to that of HDR video (10 or 12 bit) in an 8 bit video format.

HTH

John EB
Forum Moderator

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