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AkelixE wrote on 1/7/2019, 7:56 PM

I concur. I've been doing it manually as well and it is extremely tedious.
It makes my project look gnarly cool with all the automation, but it deters me from getting too wild with the drums.

Matt-Francis wrote on 1/8/2019, 8:39 AM

This was one of the things I requested in the survey they had last year. No update from Magix on the results of that survey or what they intend to take from it though.

shkr wrote on 1/9/2019, 11:22 AM

I think sidechaining may come together with vst3 support, I'm affraid not for vst2.

Right now there is a workaround. It requires a little investement. Guys - get yourself DDMF Metaplugin. It comes with additional vsts: "send it" and "receive it". You put "send it vst" on your for example kick track. and you put metapluginvst on bus you want to duck. Inside metaplugin you put 'receive vst' and a compressor of your choice. Then inside metaplugin route main signal to the compressor and signal from 'receive' to sidechain input of the compressor. It is really easy to set up, but of course requires some work.

So not a perfect solution but it works. Hope this helps!

Former user wrote on 4/8/2020, 8:30 PM

I think sidechaining may come together with vst3 support, I'm affraid not for vst2.

Right now there is a workaround. It requires a little investement. Guys - get yourself DDMF Metaplugin. It comes with additional vsts: "send it" and "receive it". You put "send it vst" on your for example kick track. and you put metapluginvst on bus you want to duck. Inside metaplugin you put 'receive vst' and a compressor of your choice. Then inside metaplugin route main signal to the compressor and signal from 'receive' to sidechain input of the compressor. It is really easy to set up, but of course requires some work.

So not a perfect solution but it works. Hope this helps!

Version 10 here in year 2020, no sidechain. I did find a workaround but it sucks. So, no, no sidechain that actually works.

Former user wrote on 4/8/2020, 10:35 PM

Please forgive me as I don't write this to rain on anyone's parade but AP8 will never see any more added features. Magix has moved on from it. Side chaining is a (in the next update) new feature in AP10. The short of it is they want you to buy AP10. Cheers

Former user wrote on 4/9/2020, 12:36 AM

Please forgive me as I don't write this to rain on anyone's parade but AP8 will never see any more added features. Magix has moved on from it. Side chaining is a (in the next update) new feature in AP10. The short of it is they want you to buy AP10. Cheers

You had me for a second, then I re-read, "next update", hoping that update of version 10. I would be pissed if they want another 100 bucks for small updates. I am already about 400 bucks out.

emmrecs wrote on 4/9/2020, 3:47 AM

@Former user

The side-chaining "update" is going to be "free" to all current owners of Acid 10. It is an "update", not an "upgrade".

Jeff

Win 11 Pro 64 bit, Intel i7 14700, 16 GB RAM, NVidia RTX 4060 and Intel UHD770 Graphics, MOTU 8-Pre f/w audio interface, VPX, MEP, Music Maker, PhotoStory Deluxe, Photo Manager Deluxe, Xara 3D Maker 7, Samplitude Pro X7 Suite, Reaper, Adobe Audition 3, CS6 and CC, 2 x Canon HG10 cameras, 1 x Canon EOS 600D, Akaso EK7000 Pro Action Cam

Former user wrote on 4/9/2020, 3:51 AM

@Former user

The side-chaining "update" is going to be "free" to all current owners of Acid 10. It is an "update", not an "upgrade".

Jeff

Jeff, if you read my comment slowly, you will see the sarcasm in fine print. I understand the difference well.

emmrecs wrote on 4/9/2020, 3:53 AM

@Former user

Indeed!

Unfortunately, it is very difficult to show "sarcasm" in written words! 😇

Jeff

Win 11 Pro 64 bit, Intel i7 14700, 16 GB RAM, NVidia RTX 4060 and Intel UHD770 Graphics, MOTU 8-Pre f/w audio interface, VPX, MEP, Music Maker, PhotoStory Deluxe, Photo Manager Deluxe, Xara 3D Maker 7, Samplitude Pro X7 Suite, Reaper, Adobe Audition 3, CS6 and CC, 2 x Canon HG10 cameras, 1 x Canon EOS 600D, Akaso EK7000 Pro Action Cam

Former user wrote on 4/9/2020, 3:55 AM

@Former user

Indeed!

Unfortunately, it is very difficult to show "sarcasm" in written words! 😇

Jeff

Yes, obviously, very difficult. Now, let me go make some music that no one will listen to probably.

Former user wrote on 4/9/2020, 3:58 AM

@Former user

The side-chaining "update" is going to be "free" to all current owners of Acid 10. It is an "update", not an "upgrade".

Jeff

all jokes aside, your statement still is a relief that something will be free at least.

Frank_Fader wrote on 4/9/2020, 4:46 AM

We already had ACID sidechaining running successfully in-house, and now have it successfully running in our beta tester group, and it will come as a free patch for ACID 10 which should come in the next few weeks, hopefully even earlier.

Former user wrote on 4/9/2020, 4:49 AM

We already had ACID sidechaining running successfully in-house, and now have it successfully running in our beta tester group, and it will come as a free patch for ACID 10 which should come in the next few weeks, hopefully even earlier.

Thank you, Frank. Not to be a pest, and a humble request, please do look some suggestions sent to you feature-wise since you guys are at it. I appreciate everything you are doing.

ebann wrote on 9/5/2020, 3:09 PM

Whatever happened with this vaporware?

sheppo wrote on 9/7/2020, 11:23 AM

Whatever happened with this vaporware?

@ebann it got released a while back; it's included in the latest public version of AP10.

ebann wrote on 9/7/2020, 1:58 PM

Whatever happened with this vaporware?

@ebann it got released a while back; it's included in the latest public version of AP10.

But the post is about Acid 8 getting it which never happened. I’m not about to spend 100 bucks every year because you guys wanna throw a new version number and add one or two little features. I only bought version eight because I thought it would be an upgrade over my 10 year old version of Sony 7 which it wasn’t. Only using it now to revive a few old songs I never finished and go back to logic pro on Mac and reaper on PC. But it’s just difficult doing surgery on Clips painting automation instead of just having side Chaney do the work for you.

sheppo wrote on 9/7/2020, 5:51 PM

re: vaporware. Routing / side-chaining was never advertised for AP8, it was for AP10.

Former user wrote on 9/10/2020, 8:30 PM

People asked the Cakewalk developers for Arranger Tracks and they got that (and even more) out the door in like 9 months. They aren't even charging for the product.

Having to wait two releases for this is... not great development pace, considering how basic this feature is in 2020.

No one asks for advertised features. That's illogical. Feature requests are for things that aren't there, aren't slated to be there, and needed by users.

Paying $100 just for this feature when you can get it and more for up to 100% less cost is wasteful. Not everyone feels the need to donate to a corporation out of attachment to a certain brand/product. Some of us are more pragmatic about our spending and product choices.

This is not a free product. The support is pretty bad, and versions are summarily dropped out of support ASAP when a new version is released. This is why the reference to vaporware exists. This has only improve a little very recently, and it's a huge deterrent to getting people on MAGIX products.

I was always trying to get people to try out products like Sound Forge Pro, Samplitude, and ACID - and this was often cited as a reason why they wouldn't touch them with a ten foot poll... and even I eventually moved off of them due to the development pacing and the "updates masquerading as upgrades" where they add one or two features and some redundant plugins and pretend like they just gave you a Cubase 10 upgrade off of version 3.

 

SP. wrote on 9/11/2020, 3:04 AM

$100 is nothing. This pays just one inhouse-programmer for one or two hours. Depending on how much has to be made from scratch and crammed into the already existing software framework this one feature can take many weeks or months to integrate. Now you can do the math on how much it will cost.

Cakewalks developer owns many different brands to generate income that pays for development. Magix doesn't. That is why they are releasing a new version every year. They are doing this since they started out in the mid 1990s. But you don't have to buy a new version every year. Just get one upgrade every 4-5 years.