this may be a silly question but i need to ask it

spuddy13 wrote on 3/25/2024, 6:32 PM

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I filmed wide screen using my video camera then half way through a holiday it packed in

i then used my mobile phone for rest of holiday and stupidly filmed in vertical mode (portrait not landscape)

is there anything i can do so i do not get a video filling a 1/3rd of the screen in centre with two black boxes either side

the software has so many great effects/corrections so i need to ask

thanks folks

Regards

Brian

 

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CubeAce wrote on 3/25/2024, 9:24 PM

@spuddy13

Hi Brian.

You can use size position rotation to increase the vertical videos to fill the frame but you will lose parts of the top or bottom of the video clips and the images will get softer and may seem noisier than the landscape clips unless the landscape videos were shot in HD and the portrait ones shot in 4K. Then there may also be a problem if you videoed at different frame rates. It may not be that bad depending on how much you filled the frame with subject matter you needed. You can move the frame of the portrait video up and down as needed to keep the main subject matter using your mouse and adding key frames as needed. Alternatively you could keep the whole image within the frame and shrunk with the sides filled with a larger version blurred either side using one of the design elements templates 'Image border effects basic'. You could duplicate the video onto three tracks and have them play side by side. You could have three different video tracks playing at once or place photos as changing slide shows either side. I have done all of those things at one time or another. Just use your imagination.

Ray.

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johnebaker wrote on 3/26/2024, 2:23 AM

@spuddy13

Hi Brian

In addition to @CubeAce comment, which is the method I also use, MMS 2023 also has a set of templates which cater for what you require, many of them have animations

.

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browj2 wrote on 3/26/2024, 6:28 AM

@spuddy13

Hi Brian,

Additional ideas. You were on vacation, so I presume travelling. You can maybe fill in some of the blank areas with Travel Maps shots - animated or not - of where you were or travelling to. You can maybe get some pertinent photos, like from Google Streetmaps of locations and put part on screen to complement your video, supporting text, closeups of signs.

Try not to distract the eye too much from the main video though.

Just thinking, in some cases where explanation may be needed, you could film yourself or whoever was with you speaking, crop it, and put it on one side.

Find a nice background that you can use where you have overlays that don't fill the screen, or use one of the methods described by others.

Oh, and not a silly question. We all face problems like this and are looking for ideas.

John CB

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AAProds wrote on 3/26/2024, 8:45 AM

@spuddy13

You have three options (well, I can think of three!), if you want to fill the screen, for dealing with portrait videos in a landscape movie. You have to decide whether you want no black bars on the sides, because reducing the size of the bars means you have increased the amount of top and bottom cropping. 

Section Effect

This is the simplest to implement but is the most restrictive because once you set the size and position of the section crop box, it can't be changed through the clip. Make sure you choose "Like Movie" from the droplist. Use the Preview button then click it again to go back to Edit.

 

Camera Zoomshot

Similar display to Section but the crop box can be resized and moved dynamically as the clip progresses by keyframing. You have to click the SPR keyframe box to activate the Keyframe panel (a bug, IMO).

 

Size/Position/Rotation

Really the low-level functional control that powers the Section and CZS effects. It’s the clumsiest because you can’t see the edges/what you’re missing of your video. You are essentially looking through a 16:9 window at your video. Use the red side diamonds to drag your video wider so it fills the “window”. The video itself can be dragged about to display the part you want. The movements can be keyframed, like CZS.

You may need to change the monitor window Zoom level by clicking on the hamburger menu at top left and choosing say 50% so you et a good idea of what's actually happening.

Provided the resolution of the phone footage is pretty good eg 2160x3840, you’ll find zooming right in to fill the 1920-wide window will result in very little quality loss. After all, 2160 is still wider than 1920. And you don’t have to zoom all the way in; you could do a partial zoom to have medium-sized black side bars. I’ll bet you’ll find you will want to zoom in at least partially, given my observation that the 9:16 format generally includes a lot of nothing at the top and bottom of the video.

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johnebaker wrote on 3/26/2024, 9:25 AM

@spuddy13

Hi Brian

Al's comment 'I can think of three!' reminded me that I had forgotten to add to my last post:-

The next time you have to use your mobile, turn it on its side to landscape orientation.

Usually, the correct landscape orientation is when the camera lens is on the left as you hold the phone for shooting. If you have a phone case with a flap hinged on the left side, the flap is at the bottom.

This could be classed as a 'silly' answer, however it does solve future problems. 😃

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spuddy13 wrote on 3/27/2024, 7:26 AM

My Silly question certainly got some really sensible answers

I have not had time to do some testing till tonight and tomorrow

I really appreciate the time you have all spent on responses..i can see its took some time to compose

i love the software and the support community

again thanks for the advice and know your input will be reflected in all my future productions 😁

 

Brian

spuddy13 wrote on 3/28/2024, 3:04 PM

folks,

i have now had a go with all suggestions

this is a fab learning experience for me

i am just about to start the new project at weekend with portrait footage (silly me)

thanks for preparing me and giving me options

 

Brian

CubeAce wrote on 3/28/2024, 4:25 PM

@spuddy13

Glad you found the suggestions helpful.

The program can do a lot once you get to grips with the basics. In one sense it is a great tool for learning video editing in itself or at least get you thinking about how something can be done.

There are no stupid questions, just people who feel you should know the answers and make you feel stupid about asking the question. Everyone starts somewhere. If you stay out of any technical loop long enough you can get left behind. Paying for goods at a different supermarket reminded me of this just recently.

Happy editing.

Ray.

 

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spuddy13 wrote on 3/28/2024, 4:41 PM

Ray,

 

your a Gem....many thanks 👍