Settings for export and editing

Former user wrote on 2/26/2022, 11:19 AM

@Zzz Hi not an easy one to answer, If you don't want loss in quality you need to examine the orig footage, MediaInfo will help with that, https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo after download & install, right click on the video in your Windows folder, MediaInfo should be there, open it & choose Text from the View tab,

If you're import is HEVC it will have a lower Bit rate than it would if it was AVC, because HEVC was designed to help reduce storage use in high definition video like 4k & 8k, so if you're not exporting at the same format, HEVC - AVC, conversation of the bit rate might be hard to work out, I'm sure somebody knows tho 🤓

Each 1 second frame is made up of smaller GOB segments, 120fps will have 120 in that frame but 60fps will have 60, so converting to a lower frame rate you'll be loosing GOB frames & could have 'interesting' results so you'd have to play with that, I would Google GOB frames because i know very little about it.

PS right lick on the file in Windows folder - Properties will give you an idea of Bit Rate of the orig file

CubeAce wrote on 2/26/2022, 11:27 AM

@Zzz

Hi and welcome to the user to user forums.

Personally I would set the project to the correct settings for the project. Frame rate and screen size as well as audio sampling rate.

If you are uploading to YouTube use MP4 encoding rather than HEVC. YouTube is kinder to MP4 than HEVC when it will re-encode your files.

To fool the YouTube encoder into encoding the files with their higher end encoder the uploaded file should be large file size wise with a high bit rate and preferably an all I frame selection for the GOP structure and if possible a higher frame rate double that of which you are using. These files will be much larger then the files that you used to produce the project. It can't be helped if quality is the end result you want.

To do that find a similar ratio and a higher frame rate option from the top drop down menu in the export section. You will have to tick the 'Show all' box in that drop down menu. Once selected then adjust the other boxes further down to the correct size and frame rate for your upload. Ignore warning and just press the continue button.

Change the GOP structure to all I frames and Coding quality to high. Halve the Maximum GOP length if you wish or leave it alone. Coding quality should be set to Best. Level could be left on Auto and Profile set to HIGH.

You will note the Top Preset box says User defined. If you like the setting you can save it and give it an identifiable name. If the file is not interlaced (And it shouldn't be) then set that box to progressive if it isn't already. If you can't find the frame rates and picture size in the drop down boxes, type them in using the ... Box to the left of each one.

That is what I do and I find it very difficult to find differences between the file on my PC and the uploaded file showing on YouTube which should also show the higher quality codec in use when you look at the 'Stats for Nerds'.

Ray.

johnebaker wrote on 2/26/2022, 2:07 PM

@Former user

Hi

. . . . GOB segments . . . .

Do you mean GOP - Group of Pictures?

. . . . Each 1 second frame is made up of smaller GOB segments . . . .

That depends on the GOP length - I use a GOP length of 100 for Full HD (1920 x 1080) video at 25 fps for streaming - 1 GOP is 4 secs long with little loss of quality and streaming is much smoother without having to create alternative resolutions for lower Internet connection speeds.

@Zzz

Hi

What player devices and/or method of streaming are you targeting your video for?

John EB

Zzz wrote on 2/26/2022, 2:28 PM

Thanks everyone for the help. I'm quite new to advanced editing programms, and I don't understand some technical words. I need to read and learn more

@Gid I've just downloaded the MediaInfo and I'm going to try to use it :-)

@CubeAce I didn't know that YT doeasn't like h.265, so I will be exporting as h.264, thanks for mentioning that and giving me so much advice

@Johnebaker I upload my videos to YouTube. I would like to get as good quality as possible but I'm not computer expert, so I don't know much about all these settings and I would like to set it once, forever :-)

Zzz wrote on 2/26/2022, 2:37 PM

I also noticed, that it is possible to choose a tool for Import/Processing/Export. I am able to choose from: 1. CPU, 2. Intel HD Graphics 620, 3. NVIDIA GeForce 940MX, 4. Microsoft WARP device. Do you know which of these would be the best? (Intel HD Graphics 620 was selected by default)

CubeAce wrote on 2/26/2022, 2:42 PM

@Zzz

Hi.

I used the term 'like' lightly. It's just that in the past I found sharpening variations creeping in on uploaded files to YouTube using H265 in the past that seemed to exacerbate tonal banding of block colours and shaded areas that I don't get when I have used H264. Things may have changed by now but what I do seems to still work for me.

I won't suggest it is the best way or the only way and can produce quite large files that may be unnecessary. I am pleased with my results though and is my own personal way of dealing with YouTube quality issues.

Ray.

Former user wrote on 2/26/2022, 2:42 PM

@Zzz 👍

I upload to YT, I use the MPEG-4, 3840x2160 or 1920x1080 from the drop down presets at the top & use the default settings but your size settings are going to be different, as @CubeAce says i avoid HEVC which is H.265, it's newer & doesn't always work correctly, Youtube will convert your file to whatever Youtube likes but MPEG-4 is H.264, it has been around a while & pretty much all programs are happy with it, it's the safer bet

Export settings '1. CPU, 2. Intel HD Graphics 620, 3. NVIDIA GeForce 940MX, 4. Microsoft WARP device' will depend on your computer

Can you go to your icon at the top, click it - My Profile, & fill in your Signature with your Vegas version, Windows version & system specs, CPU, GPU, RAM etc. this will then show at the bottom of the comments 👍

CubeAce wrote on 2/26/2022, 2:49 PM

@Zzz I think in this instance the program has selected the probable best settings for you.

It is worth noting that even if only one GPU is selected for all tasks the program (possibly with the help of Windows) will use the CPU and nvidia card where it can. Unfortunately your nvidia card only fully supports Direct X 11 and the program can make use of Direct X11.1 and I suspect above that as well where hardware is capable. Your Intel GPU supports up to Direct X12 so is possibly why the program selected that as the default for all tasks.

You can play around with those settings to see if you can get a better behaved setting but I'm not sure you will.

Ray.

johnebaker wrote on 2/26/2022, 2:50 PM

@Zzz

Hi

. . . . I upload my videos to YouTube. I would like to get as good quality as possible but I'm not computer expert, so I don't know much about all these settings and I would like to set it once, forever :-) . . . .

In this case I would recommend you use @CubeAce settings recommendation and save this as a custom preset - click the disk icon indicated by the yellow arrow in the image below to save a custom preset.

When naming the preset put an underscore ( _ ) or hyphen ( - ) as the first character of the name - see red arrow in image below - this will ensure it appears at the top of the list as shown below, .

HTH

John EB.

Zzz wrote on 2/27/2022, 9:44 AM

Thanks everyone for the help and tips. I have learned many new things here, your advice is very helpful. Now I'm going to set my Magix software properly and hopefully make better videos :-)

Cam-Kirmser wrote on 8/21/2024, 1:19 PM

I am trying to edit a video to trim off the first 2m-18s and save the remainder as a new video. I get the trimmed result that I want and select HVEC as the format for export. Unfortunately, the aspect ratio of the original is not one of the preset values. I saw the ellipses button and presumed that was how a custom ratio was entered. So, I clicked it and, indeed, a dialog came up with a means to enter a ratio value. I entered the 1.303704 aspect ratio of the original product and clicked OK, but the value remained one of the presets.

Is there a way to customize the aspect ratio?

johnebaker wrote on 8/21/2024, 1:59 PM

@Cam-Kirmser

Hi

See this tutorial, which though referring to a different aspect ratio, demonstrates the principles to follow.

In the project setting the width/height and if a non-standard AR, enter the values width:height eg if source is 3600 x 2480 enter the AR value as 3600:2480 the program will calculate the ratio.

The export settings should then follow the project settings.

HTH

John EB
Forum Moderator

Cam-Kirmser wrote on 8/21/2024, 3:14 PM

Thanx, I'll check that out.