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Roberto-Goncalves wrote on 4/30/2023, 10:51 PM

Hi,

Where can I see how much in % is the opacity ? (I find this information extremely useful)

thanks!

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AAProds wrote on 4/30/2023, 11:08 PM

@Roberto-Goncalves

I'm not aware of any display for the opacity when you lower the level via the timeline object drag handle.

You can, however, precisely set the video level via the Chroma Key effect:

Unfortunately, that is not replicated on the object drag handle.

 

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System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

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Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

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(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 v22H2

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

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MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

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Roberto-Goncalves wrote on 5/1/2023, 7:34 AM

when you use the Chroma Key effect, 
the opacity line stays frozen!
A systematic user, knows that the situation focuses on
on the Chroma Key! But for many it can be confusing. If you use Chroma key, you could hide
the opacity line or even paint it another color!

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AAProds wrote on 5/1/2023, 7:55 AM

@Roberto-Goncalves

Roberto, I feel your pain. We're mere users, such as yourself, not Magix staff.

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All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 v22H2

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

VPX 12

browj2 wrote on 5/1/2023, 9:35 AM

@Roberto-Goncalves

Hi,

Where can I see how much in % is the opacity ? (I find this information extremely useful)

I agree, it would be helpful to have a percentage, much like the object volume line.

...when you use the Chroma Key effect, 
the opacity line stays frozen!
A systematic user, knows that the situation focuses on
on the Chroma Key! But for many it can be confusing. If you use Chroma key, you could hide
the opacity line or even paint it another color!

I disagree. They are two features that must remain usable. The line with handle on the object raises and lowers the object opacity, equally, no keyframing. The Video Level under Chromakey allows a separate opacity adjustment with keyframing. Although it may be considered as a bit of redundancy, if you want some opacity for the entire clip, but less at certain locations, you adjust the handle on the object for the overall opacity, then you keyframe the video level for just the parts to be modified.

Note that the Chromakey video level maximum is the level that is set by the overall object opacity.

This is analogous to the audio levels. The line with handle on the object raises and lowers the overall level, the volume level under Audio Effects/General, allows further adjustments with keyframing and goes along with the object volume curve. So, one can use the detailed volume level and keyframe large transients to reduce their volume, and then make an overall adjustment to the object level to bring it up a bit.

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Roberto-Goncalves wrote on 5/1/2023, 10:23 AM

I disagree. They are two features that must remain usable. The line with handle on the object raises and lowers the object opacity, equally, no keyframing. The Video Level under Chromakey allows a separate opacity adjustment with keyframing. Although it may be considered as a bit of redundancy, if you want some opacity for the entire clip, but less at certain locations, you adjust the handle on the object for the overall opacity, then you keyframe the video level for just the parts to be modified.

I saw only now that opacity (of the object line) is unlinked from the opacity effect generated in the Chromakey video level! 
Anyway I made a claim to the support to evaluate if it is possible to improve the % information of the line opacity of the object (not only to show the % but also to type a value as it exists in the Chromakey edition) 

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browj2 wrote on 5/1/2023, 10:54 AM

@Roberto-Goncalves

Hi,

Typing a value for both the object opacity level and audio object volume level would be very welcome.

I would expect the problem of having just the % for the opacity level would be the same as what happens currently with the audio object volume, getting a precise value is very difficult. Thus typing in a value would be most helpful.

I presume that you have noted how I turned on the video level curve on the object.

John CB

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VideoPro X(16); Movie Studio 2024 Platinum; MM2025 Premium Edition; Samplitude Pro X8 Suite; see About me for more.

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