importing a stereo mp3 file into both tracks seprately

SP. wrote on 11/8/2024, 2:28 AM

@Gerald-Shantz Right click on the audio in the top area of the program and select to split up stereo channels. Then simply click on the '2'-button on the right side of the audio area too enable the second track.

Sound Forge and Sound Forge Audio Cleaning Lab are completely different programs, that's why they work differently.

The confusing naming of Sound Forge Audio Cleaning Lab is simply just for brand recognition, but technically it is based on Samplitude.

rraud wrote on 11/8/2024, 9:35 AM

The confusing naming of Sound Forge Audio Cleaning Lab is simply just for brand recognition, but technically it is based on Samplitude.

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Moderator moved post to the ACL users community.

Gerald-Shantz wrote on 11/8/2024, 12:09 PM

Thanks for the response!

I feel real ignorant about now. However, no matter what I do, I do NOT see the word "audio" anywhere! The thing I did notice was after loading the "file", on the top line where the entire file is shown in its small size, appears to be a single mono data file. When I open the same file in the true Sound forge 7.0 program, (where it was created and saved) it appears normally as a stereo (2 channel) file). Is there something in the file format which the "Samplitude" program doesn't recognize? Everything was created and saved as MP3. I am loath to have to re-record everything with Audio Cleaning Lab, just to be able to clean it up.

I'm not sure if this will be posted back in the ACL users community.

SP. wrote on 11/8/2024, 12:45 PM

@Gerald-Shantz Simply right click on the audio file at the top. That is what I was describing.

johnebaker wrote on 11/8/2024, 1:40 PM

@Gerald-Shantz

Hi

Looking at the image above, the audio file is on track 1 (T: 1) and is displaying both left and right channels - red arrow in image below.

The empty track 2 (T: 2) is confusing the issue, as is also the Overview track at the very top, turn off the top and bottom buttons indicated by the yellow arrow, leaving only 1 on.

Added:

Below is one method to split the stereo file into 2 separate channels.

Note I am using Video Sound Cleaning Lab, ACL is identical

HTH

John EB
Forum Moderator

browj2 wrote on 11/8/2024, 3:19 PM

@Gerald-Shantz

Hi,

Look at the image below:

The top shows the overview so that you know where you are along the arranger/timeline. If you have zoomed in on the timeline, you can quickly move along by clicking where you want to move to or dragging with the mouse to change the zoom factor and location along the timeline.

At the left of track 1, you have volume and pan.

I put a volume curve on the track - the yellow line. You can automate this (keyframes).

Below, under Mastering, select Stereo Enhancer. You have a choice to adjust the Project or just the selected object. Review the presets. Near the bottom right you can adjust the volume of L & R channels separately and you can pan. When you play back, you'll see the result in the graph at the upper right of the Stereo Enhancer.

John CB

Gerald-Shantz wrote on 11/8/2024, 11:04 PM

Thanks to both browj2 and johnebaker for your help. I'm finding this program non-intuitive unlike the old original. I can see how it has much potential, but it is like so many things in life. If you don't know how, it is a mystery; but if you know, it is simple! I guess this is why I was so disappointed at not being able to make my old Sound Forge noise reduction add-on work. It's going to take this old dog (81) some weeks of learning all over again. One thing I found useful which is new to me, is being able to change the speed without changing the pitch. I needed to speed up a few songs that were painfully slow. With this method of switching between original and added effect, I never know for sure if and when that change has been permanently changed. I was disappointed that when I told the installation program to put the entire system on another drive, it still just put it on C: which as an SSD, doesn't have much room. I'll keep working on it, but may need a few more questions answered. Your using graphic files is a winner.

Oh to be young again! 🙂

Gerald

Gerald-Shantz wrote on 11/12/2024, 8:49 PM

After much trial and error, trying /redoing, I've found this to be the most unfriendly software I've ever used. Since my old Sound Forge 7.0 still works, (just not the noise reduction add-on) I thought maybe I could do most of my work in it and then just reload the file into ACL for the noise reduction. Well, that's when I realized just HOW clunky the ACL program is! Why in the world didn't the software engineers just build on a solid foundation to update it? I feel like I'm trying t learn "new math" or something.

I still haven't figured out how to just use my mouse to select anything and everything I need. When I find a section that needs to be muted, I just drag my mouse over the exact area and either click on "mute", or "del". Of all the things I've looked for an answer in the instructions, it has yet to provide a single answer. Very poorly written. The problem with coming back here for answers, is the time lag.

Since this version of ACL, is only $35, is there anything available that is more user friendly? My thought was that since John made the comment "Note I am using Video Sound Cleaning Lab, ACL is identical." it made me think that a more expensive version may not help. The time I've spent struggling with this, I could have done 20 times more work in the old software if there was just any way to get the "working code." Very disappointing! 😞

I'm open to any suggestions, and thanks for your help,

Gerald

browj2 wrote on 11/12/2024, 10:09 PM

@Gerald-Shantz

Hi,

Audio Cleaning Lab is a totally different product from Sound Forge. Magix added the prefix Sound Forge several years ago to be able to put audio editing programs under the same heading, I guess. I have been using it since 2005. The actual Sound Forge programs - Pro and Audio Studio were purchased from Sony along with Vegas.

ACL is actually very simple to use. I find SF Pro and AS difficult, but that is because ACL works like all other Magix products with the exception of those that came from Sony and I am used to using Magix' products like the video editors, Music Maker and Samplitude Pro X.

Make sure that you are in Edit Mouse mode, top menu, Options, or shortcut V.

There is not a lot to select - only objects on the timeline.

Each object has a white horizontal line with a handle in the middle - that is the object volume control. For automation - keyframing audio - turn on the track Volume curve - Volume at the very right of the screen near the top. This will put a yellow line on the track. You can place points (keyframes) on the yellow line and drag them up and down to change the volume along the timeline.

To cut out a part, you put the playback marker where you want to split the object, click on the scissors (T). You now have 2 objects. To delete an object, select it with the mouse, Delete or the big X in the mid left toolbar. To delete whatever is at the left of the playback marker for an object only, use the shortcut Z; for the right part, shortcut U. These are available under the top menu, Edit. I suggest that you look at all menu items, all buttons, and right-click wherever you go to see what is on the context right-click menu.

To mute, but keep, a part, just put a cut on either side and drag the volume handle to the bottom.

Dragging your mouse along the time bar creates a range. Changing to Range mode (top menu, Options) will create a range when you drag along the timeline or on an object. The range is basically there for looping, not trimming, and for applying FX to just a range. I don't recommend doing the latter as I have not found a way to remove range effects.

You can apply effects to the Project or by object, or both under Cleaning and Mastering.

I presume that you found how to open other effects, like iZotope Voice De-noise. Correct?

Anything else specific, just ask.

John CB