High CPU Usage..when using effects. Preview window lags

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Scenestealer wrote on 6/26/2012, 5:57 PM

Now that I see your clip is a MOV.... do you have Quicktime installed to ensure that the correct codec is installed on your PC? Also as it is a progresive (non interlaced) clip you can un select "Automatic interlace processing" in the program settings "Audio/Video" tab which helps with smoother preview performance.

Another thing looking back at your Task manager screen shot - you have a huge number of processes running including 3 browsers (and multiple instances of Google Chrome) all using unusually large amounts of RAM, in most cases double what I see (Quicklooks Builder uses only 91,000K on my machine and 400,000K on yours). Not that you are short of RAM but you must understand that running a very resource intensive program like Video editing requires that all unecessary processes be shut down to give it the best chance, on any machine. 

 

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worldstarhiphop23 wrote on 6/26/2012, 9:27 PM

 

yes it was already set on Automatic Interlace

 

but i also tried closing out all programs only leaving Magix opened.. still would lag

Scenestealer wrote on 6/27/2012, 2:08 AM

No - I meant take the tick out so that it is not trying to deinterlace something that is not interlaced.

And while you are there set half resolution as you will hardly notice the difference whilst editing and it will not affect the output file resolution. Also tick the two empty boxes in the "Arranger" section.

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worldstarhiphop23 wrote on 6/27/2012, 2:17 AM

ok i tried that still skipping.. 

 

 

worldstarhiphop23 wrote on 6/27/2012, 6:58 AM

about the cuda option being disabled

Magix told me this..


"If your laptop has Optimus technology which comes with the Geforce M cards, then hardware acceleration is not compatible with our software. You will need to see if there is a way to completely disable the on board Intel graphics card on the machine. If you cannot disable, then unfortunately your dedicated graphics card will not be available to the software.

This is a hardware incompatibility and is not scheduled to be changed in the software, sorry. "

worldstarhiphop23 wrote on 6/27/2012, 7:57 AM

Found out the problem.. Magic was using the intel HD graphics 4000 and not my Nividia card.. i went to Nivida settings and set Magic software to use Nviida and not intel.

 

and no more skipping on HALF Resolution.. and only 40 percent CPU power

 

i still can't use FULL resolution.. that still skipps sometimes and 99 CPU Power but half resolution still is pretty clear and doesn't skip.

 

Thanks for the help.. Now is there anyway i can completely disable intel HD graphics 4000 from my laptop? only use Nividia for everything. 

 

I tried doing that through Device Manager.. by clicking Disable on Intel HD Graphics.. but then my computer turns all black screen. and when i manually reboot my computer. the display is very big.. and tells me i don't have Nvidia Installed. just weird

Scenestealer wrote on 6/28/2012, 2:36 AM

Hmm......That was going to be my next question as to whether you had looked for some sort of switch to turn off the integrated graphics..... but looks like you found an option to at least make magix use the Nvidia GPU. I guess that was in "Manage 3D settings> Program settings >Videodeluxe.exe > Cuda GPUS. Useful to know that.

As far as disabling the Intel graphics is there nowhere in the windows settings that allow you to choose. My guess would be there might be something in Bios that would do it but I could not tell you where, not having a machine with an iGPU and discreet GPU.

Glad you have something that you can work with.

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worldstarhiphop23 wrote on 6/28/2012, 3:08 AM

MSI said . cant disable it. its built to have that and nvidia used together

 

Scenestealer wrote on 6/28/2012, 6:33 AM

OK!

Are both GPU'S showing activity (load) on playback now ..........and can you now use Cuda, Open GL or Quicksync when exporting MPEG4 H264?

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worldstarhiphop23 wrote on 6/28/2012, 6:38 AM

Cuda option is still disabled.. Magix said its cause the software doesn't support video cards that have this new

Optimum Technology on nvidia cards.., so no way around that

 

 

and i see sensors moving on GPU app.

worldstarhiphop23 wrote on 6/28/2012, 11:48 AM

Another weird issue.. Some effects. that i use.. starting to skip the video again. when i press play.. but by CPU is low.. only 25 percent.. only way to fix that issue is if i change resolution. to Lowest quality

Scenestealer wrote on 6/28/2012, 6:00 PM

Some effects will cause skipping regardless because they are not designed to use GPU acceleration.

If you go to Nvidia's site there is a white paper about the Optimus Technology from which I have taken the following:

"Another keystone of NVIDIA‟s Optimus technology is the ability to use a list of GPU-powered applications, each with its own unique Optimus Profile. NVIDIA has profiled applications based on whether the GPU can add quality, performance, lower power, or functionality. In doing so, Optimus is able to avoid powering up the GPU unless it is necessary.
Before an application has an Optimus Profile, NVIDIA runs the application through a series of verification and validation processes to ensure the highest quality and experience. Once validated, the updated Profiles are hosted on an NVIDIA web server and then automatically pushed out to the end user. Should the user not want automatic updates, they can disable this feature within the NVIDIA Control Panel.
As new applications and games are introduced in the market they may not have an Optimus Profile preinstalled, so NVIDIA has created a unique solution-- an NVIDIA-hosted Web server will push updated Optimus Profiles to the end user. Users also have the ability to customize Profiles and create new ones.
Similar to the SLI profiles found in NVIDIA drivers over the last several years, a section within the NVIDIA Control Panel displays the application-specific settings for Optimus. Although there is an extensive list of existing application profiles with the preferred graphics processor for each application, users are also able to add new application profiles and customize existing profiles from the list. The drop menu and associated settings for doing so are illustrated below in Figure 7."

Maybe Magix just needs to submit their program to Nvidia for them to create a profile which you can load.

Also maybe the last paragraph is referring to what you have just done to get the 670M going?

It's worth reading the whole paper - it also mentions that the iGPU is doing basic stuff as a display controller even when the discreet card is performing rendering so that may be why you cannot disable it completely.

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worldstarhiphop23 wrote on 6/28/2012, 9:49 PM

Where can i make profiles for Nvidia?

 

it happens to alot of effects.. i add on Certain video types.. onl the mov videos

Scenestealer wrote on 6/29/2012, 7:46 AM

"Where can i make profiles for Nvidia?"  In the Nvidia 3D settings > Program settings (which you have already altered to enable the discreet GPU) for VideoDeluxe.exe. - I can not say exactly because I do not have your machine.

Your last sentence does not make sense.

 

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