HDR not supported in Movie studio 2025?

Serge-2024 wrote on 10/7/2024, 5:37 AM

I've just bought Movie studio 2025, I upgraded from Corel videostudio 2023. That couldn't open the video files from my samsung 23+, recorded in hevc 265 with hdr.

So now I can open the video files recorded from my samsung 23+ but they all look washed out.

I must be doing something wrong, but what? :

Original (on hdr screen its not so over bright/saturated, but creating the screenshot with the standard windows 11 snipping tool does something strange)

After importing into Moviestudio 2025

Can anyone point me in the right direction for the correct settings within Movie studio 2025?

Media info:

 

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me_again wrote on 10/7/2024, 5:49 AM

@Serge-2024

Greetings and welcome,

Right click on the viewer and make sure that Standard (2D) is checked.

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Serge-2024 wrote on 10/7/2024, 7:33 AM

Thanks for the warm welcome, 2d was already checked.

Other idea's?

johnebaker wrote on 10/7/2024, 8:02 AM

@Serge-2024

Hi

. . . video files recorded from my samsung 23+ but they all look washed out . . . hevc 265 with hdr . . .

Has the pale video from the phone looks like it has been recorded in a Cine-D, Log or colour profile format.

If so, then Samsung should supply a colour correction LUT (Look Up Table) which should be placed in a new sub folder of

Correction 09/10/2024 - correct path is

C:\Users\Public\Documents\MAGIX\Common\Videocontent\Movie Studio version\VideoEffects

the folder should be named called LUTPresets and within that folder create a folder called LUTCamera, inside thid folder create another call Samsung s3

To use the LUT drag and drop it on to the video, the LUT will be found in Templates tab, Movie Looks, Samsung S3

This is what I get with my Osmo Action 4 HEVC, HDR Cine-D format.

HTH

John EB
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Bol wrote on 10/7/2024, 8:09 AM

@Serge-2024

Hello Serge,

Have you activated the lightning bolt (blue)? If so, deactivate it.


Best wishes,
Rob

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Serge-2024 wrote on 10/7/2024, 8:15 AM

@Serge-2024

Hello Serge,

Have you activated the lightning bolt (blue)? If so, deactivate it.


Best wishes,
Rob

No that wasn't activated, but thanks for trying to help.

Serge-2024 wrote on 10/7/2024, 8:28 AM

Has the pale video from the phone looks like it has been recorded in a Cine-D, Log or colour profile format.

If so, then Samsung should supply a colour correction LUT (Look Up Table) which should be placed in a new sub folder of

C:\Users\Public\Documents\MAGIX\Common\Videocontent\Movie Studio version Content\VideoEffects

HTH

John EB
Forum Moderator

Considering that I have the Moviestudio 2025 plus version instead of platinum. I don't have a LUTpresets folder.

So probably my application version cannot use those.

 

So that means that the rec2020 (equals HDR content?) and should be downconverted to 709 (standard HD content?)

Bit strange that a videoediting tool from 2024 doesn't support HDR material? Or is this conclusion incorrect?

(Im an IT guy, but not a video editing guru ;)

 

me_again wrote on 10/7/2024, 10:50 AM

@Serge-2024

I know nothing of LUTs and all the other dark arts bits and pieces within MS but I think John means you have to create the various folders at the address he's shown.

I may be wrong but ...

AndyW

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johnebaker wrote on 10/7/2024, 11:25 AM

@Serge-2024

Hi

. . . . Moviestudio 2025 plus version instead of platinum. I don't have a LUTpresets folder . . . .

@me_again is correct, you have to create the folders yourself as I described, MMS 2025 does not have a separate LUT category unlike it more pro version Video Pro X.

John EB

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Serge-2024 wrote on 10/7/2024, 12:13 PM

Hello John,

I created the folders as suggested, downloaded a few *.cube files. But couldn't find them in the GUI where you said they should be. Maybe the *.cube files where not compatible with Video deluxe 2024?

 

Anyhow I found the solution for my problem, sometimes it can be as simple as knowing which button to push...

The auto lumination button did the trick. (Not sure if I translated that correctly)

 

 

Im very happy with this! Hopefully this will also help someone in the future.

 

johnebaker wrote on 10/7/2024, 3:39 PM

@Serge-2024

Hi

Pleased to hear you have a solution - 'Auto belichting' - 'Auto lumination' is close, in the English version of MMS the button is labelled 'Auto Exposure'.

. . . . downloaded a few *.cube files . . . .

Cube files come in 2 different formats, 1D and 3D, if you downloaded 1D cubes they will not work. There is a very good explanation of these here.

John EB

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Bol wrote on 10/8/2024, 9:22 AM

@Serge-2024, @johnebaker, @me_again

Hi everyone,

It is true that in MMS2025 versions there is no LUTPresets folder in the location specified by John EB. But don't worry, you can still use the LUTPresets.

How to do it:

  • create a LUTPresets folder somewhere on disk
  • copy the "Free" LUTs Cube files here
  • start MMS2025
  • create a shortcut
  • You can use the LUTPresets via this shortcut

Good luck,
Rob

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Serge-2024 wrote on 10/8/2024, 9:57 AM

Thanks Rob, that did indeed work!

johnebaker wrote on 10/8/2024, 11:24 AM

@Serge-2024

Hi

@Bol has given you an alternative option, however when you update/patch MMS the link you created may be lost and you will have to recreate it.

If you followed the steps I gave then you should have something like this which includes their usage - do note I have several libraries of LUTs for various cameras and effects with folders to reflect the usage.

Correction: video removed, see comments below.

John EB

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Bol wrote on 10/8/2024, 1:51 PM

@johnebaker

Hello John,

I just installed VDL2025 premium completely new. I don't see the folder LUTPresets and the subfolders LUTCamera and LUTEffecten. Did you create this manually? That's why I gave Serge an alternative option

Greetings,
Rob

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CubeAce wrote on 10/8/2024, 3:11 PM

@Bol

Hi Rob.

MEP/MMS has never had its own LUTS folder. It's one of the differences between VPX and MMS.

Ray.

 

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Bol wrote on 10/8/2024, 3:23 PM

@CubeAce

Hi Ray,

You confirm all my findings, that's why I gave @Serge-2024 an alternative option, which works. If you own Pro X16, there is a way to make it visible via templates. But that is not the case now.

Greetings,
Rob

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johnebaker wrote on 10/9/2024, 2:13 AM

@Bol

HI Rob

. . . . I don't see the folder LUTPresets and the subfolders LUTCamera and LUTEffecten. Did you create this manually? . . . .

Yes, this was mentioned in the procedure I gave here.

John EB

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PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

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Bol wrote on 10/9/2024, 6:26 AM

@johnebaker

Hi John,

I have reviewed your procedure again. As a result, I have thoroughly removed Video Deluxe 2025 again and I really mean everything. VDL2025 reinstalled. Here is a screen recording of the standard Filmlooks Basic.

I have also made a video of this so that you can see how and what.


Greetings,
Rob

PS. I am now going to create the folders LUTPresets with subfolders LUTCamera and LUTEffecten and will make a movie of it again and upload it

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Bol wrote on 10/9/2024, 8:52 AM

@johnebaker

Hi John,

I am very curious how you managed to do this. What you show in the video, I do not see, no matter what I try.

That is how I do it....


Greetings,
Rob

Als een kwestie onoplosbaar lijkt, komt dat niet omdat je de oplossing niet ziet, maar omdat je het probleem niet ziet.

If an issue seems unsolvable, it is not because you do not see the solution, but because you do not see the problem.

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Serge-2024 wrote on 10/9/2024, 8:56 AM

I believe it has something to do with the version that he is using, compared to ours. I couldn't get it to work with his steps either.

Bol wrote on 10/9/2024, 9:12 AM

@Serge-2024

Hello Serge,

In the video you see that John did this in Movie Studio 2025 Platinum and this is similar to Video Deluxe 2025 Plus.


Best wishes,
Rob

Als een kwestie onoplosbaar lijkt, komt dat niet omdat je de oplossing niet ziet, maar omdat je het probleem niet ziet.

If an issue seems unsolvable, it is not because you do not see the solution, but because you do not see the problem.

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Serge-2024 wrote on 10/9/2024, 9:16 AM

Hoi Rob😉, Maybe its a platinum feature, to have those Luts visible from the GUI. But it could also be that we have to refresh or enable something within Moviestudio...who knows..

 

You solution works fine for me.

Btw do you know how to revert back to the original photo or video when applying a Lut (Other then delete and re-add the image/video)

johnebaker wrote on 10/9/2024, 9:21 AM

@Serge-2024, @Bol

Hi

. . . . I believe it has something to do with the version that he is using, compared to ours. . . . .

Very close, my MMS is an upgrade from previous versions of MMS, and it would appear that, during one such upgrade, the LUT folders were copied to the Magix Content folder as well as being located in

C:\Users\Public\Documents\MAGIX\Common\Videocontent\Movie Edit Pro Premium\VideoEffects\LUTPresets

This would explain why yours did not work.

I have corrected my posts.

John EB

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VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.