Do I have the complete instalation?

v850tw wrote on 5/7/2017, 12:58 PM

Dear Forum

Since I have been using Pro X, about 2 months... I am wondering if I have everything that should be with this editor. For a $400 editor, I am thinking it does not include many things. Years ago, I edited in Liquid Edition, and there were MANY organic wipes, page turns, and more - too numerous to mention. They were very controllable and of high quality. For instance... on a page turn, or a page roll up... I could specify the diameter of the curve, direction of travel, and more. I was able to customize all wipes and transitions. 3D manipulation of 2D objects was very easy. I had control over the bezier curve to ease in and out as I wanted. I appreciate how Pro X can run well on a slower laptop as I have... an AMD processor with A6. But... I am feeling buyers remorse wonderring if I should have gone PowerDirector. I realize, that there are many capabilities in Pro X that I need to learn how to use. It is possible that I don't know where everything is so it seems too simple at the present. So... How can I know if I have downloaded all features available to me? Thanks.

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emmrecs wrote on 5/7/2017, 1:46 PM

Hi.

Have you checked in the program under Help>Install extra content? The screen that opens will allow you to check whether there is anything "missing" from your installation.

(Almost) everything you list above is available in the standard installation of VPX, I think.

If you are seeking information as to the existence or whereabouts of a specific effect, please feel free to post back.

Jeff

Win 10 Pro 64 bit, Intel i7 Quad Core 6700K @ 4GHz, 32 GB RAM, NVidia GTX 1660TI and Intel HD530 Graphics, MOTU 8-Pre f/w audio interface, VPX, MEP, Music Maker, PhotoStory Deluxe, Photo Manager Deluxe, Xara 3D Maker 7, Samplitude Pro X7 Suite, Reaper, Adobe Audition 3, CS6 and CC, 2 x Canon HG10 cameras, 1 x Canon EOS 600D, Akaso EK7000 Pro Action Cam

browj2 wrote on 5/7/2017, 3:26 PM

Hi,

Further to what Jeff said, see the screens below:

If you did not go through this process, then you are missing most of the program.

Also, make sure that you update to the latest patch.

John C.B.

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v850tw wrote on 5/7/2017, 10:14 PM

I did not select the Movie edit Pro add ons...

v850tw wrote on 5/7/2017, 10:23 PM

A bunch of Newblue activation happened. I need to go see what is different. The Mainconcept MPEG4 was not able to get an activation code. Something wrong on the Magix web page. I did however, have everything else that was not Movie Edit Pro. I had the fades... Doing slide shows and having templates for making DVDs is not important now. So... If I am not able to get the activation for Mainconcept... what am I using now to export as MP4?

emmrecs wrote on 5/8/2017, 3:28 AM

what am I using now to export as MP4?

The Main Concept mp4 codec is now a purchased addition (in the UK it costs about £5 GBP, I think). If you do not have this codec then the "default" (Magix?) one will be used.

Jeff

Win 10 Pro 64 bit, Intel i7 Quad Core 6700K @ 4GHz, 32 GB RAM, NVidia GTX 1660TI and Intel HD530 Graphics, MOTU 8-Pre f/w audio interface, VPX, MEP, Music Maker, PhotoStory Deluxe, Photo Manager Deluxe, Xara 3D Maker 7, Samplitude Pro X7 Suite, Reaper, Adobe Audition 3, CS6 and CC, 2 x Canon HG10 cameras, 1 x Canon EOS 600D, Akaso EK7000 Pro Action Cam

johnebaker wrote on 5/8/2017, 3:39 AM

Hi

. . . . what am I using now to export as MP4 . . . .

If the Preferred codec option in the Program settings, Import/Export tab says Default you are using the Intel HD codecs.

HTH

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

v850tw wrote on 5/8/2017, 9:29 AM

this is what I see

browj2 wrote on 5/8/2017, 9:58 AM

That is the Export screen, not the Program Settings. Press Y or from the top menu, File, Settings, Program. Then go to the Import/Export tab.

BTW, in the Export screen that you show, if you first click on Display all, you will see more settings.

John C.B.

VideoPro X(16); Movie Studio 2024 Platinum; MM2025 Premium Edition; Samplitude Pro X8 Suite; see About me for more.

Desktop System - Windows 10 Pro 22H2; MB ROG STRIX B560-A Gaming WiFi; Graphics Card Zotac Gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX-3060, PS; Power supply EVGA 750W; Intel Core i7-10700K @ 3.80GHz (UHD Graphics 630); RAM 32 GB; OS on Kingston SSD 1TB; secondary WD 2TB; others 1.5TB, 3TB, 500GB, 4TB, 5TB, 6TB, 8TB; three monitors - HP 25" main, LG 4K 27" second, HP 27" third; Casio WK-225 piano keyboard; M-Audio M-Track USB mixer.

Notebook - Microsoft Surface Pro 4, i5-6300U, 8 GB RAM, 256 SSD, W10 Pro 20H2.

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v850tw wrote on 5/8/2017, 11:46 AM

That is the Export screen, not the Program Settings. Press Y or from the top menu, File, Settings, Program. Then go to the Import/Export tab.

BTW, in the Export screen that you show, if you first click on Display all, you will see more settings.


Why is this confusing? I went to import/export... I don't see "preferred...."

I do have a MainConcept codec for avi.

emmrecs wrote on 5/8/2017, 12:32 PM

Then you have only the default codecs for both MPEG 2 and mp4. See my screenshot below which shows options for these two codecs.

Jeff

Win 10 Pro 64 bit, Intel i7 Quad Core 6700K @ 4GHz, 32 GB RAM, NVidia GTX 1660TI and Intel HD530 Graphics, MOTU 8-Pre f/w audio interface, VPX, MEP, Music Maker, PhotoStory Deluxe, Photo Manager Deluxe, Xara 3D Maker 7, Samplitude Pro X7 Suite, Reaper, Adobe Audition 3, CS6 and CC, 2 x Canon HG10 cameras, 1 x Canon EOS 600D, Akaso EK7000 Pro Action Cam

v850tw wrote on 5/8/2017, 12:38 PM

Then you have only the default codecs for both MPEG 2 and mp4. See my screenshot below which shows options for these two codecs.

Jeff

wow....... I never knew there was a missing screen

johnebaker wrote on 5/8/2017, 1:14 PM

Hi

. . . . I never knew there was a missing screen . . . .

You are missing these options because the mp4 codec has not been installed or activated.

Open a new project and drag a genuine mp4 file onto the timeline and tell us what happens - note any messages you get.

. . . . I do have a MainConcept codec for avi . . . .

I do not understand this statement - please explain what you mean.

AVI is not a video format it is a container file and can contain a variety of video and audio codecs within it - you would need to analyse an AVI clip with MediaInfo to determine what is actually inside it.

John EB

 

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

v850tw wrote on 5/8/2017, 4:08 PM

Hi

. . . . I never knew there was a missing screen . . . .

You are missing these options because the mp4 codec has not been installed or activated.

Up above, johnebaker wrote: If the Preferred codec option in the Program settings, Import/Export tab says Default you are using the Intel HD Why is it, I did not even have a "default" choice?

Open a new project and drag a genuine mp4 file onto the timeline and tell us what happens - note any messages you get.

The only time I get any message, bringing clips in to Magix is when either the size, or frame rate is different than the timeline. I use gopro clips, which are mp4, and AVCHD clips which are .mts (mp4). I did just now, again, put a gopro mp4 file to the timeline of a new project. No pop up asking anything because the size and frame rate were the same as the timeline.

. . . . I do have a MainConcept codec for avi . . . .

Sorry.. I was mixed up. It is the Cineform codec.

I do not understand this statement - please explain what you mean.

If I go to export as .avi, I have some options - one being Cineform. Some of my projects have had lots of motion, and the only way I could get a good export with no blocky artifacts was to export as avi at a very high bitrate, and then load the avi in to gopro studio and export as mp4. When I load mp4 gopro cam files in to the gopro studio, it makes avi files for editing. They are decompressed and have great quality. Having the intel codec of lesser quality would explain why I have had such trouble with high quality exports. Seems all the codecs necessary for good quality should be present. ?

So then... do I have to buy the MainConcept codec?

AVI is not a video format it is a container file and can contain a variety of video and audio codecs within it - you would need to analyse an AVI clip with MediaInfo to determine what is actually inside it.

General
Complete name                            : F:\VIDEOS\avi\Mom 2017-03-24.avi
Format                                   : AVI
Format/Info                              : Audio Video Interleave
Format profile                           : OpenDML
File size                                : 7.96 GiB
Duration                                 : 3 min 46 s
Overall bit rate                         : 302 Mb/s

Video
ID                                       : 0
Format                                   : CineForm
Codec ID                                 : CFHD
Codec ID/Info                            : CineForm 10-bit Visually Perfect HD (Wavelet)
Duration                                 : 3 min 46 s
Bit rate                                 : 300 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 2.416
Stream size                              : 7.91 GiB (99%)

Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings, Endianness              : Little
Format settings, Sign                    : Signed
Codec ID                                 : 1
Duration                                 : 3 min 46 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 536 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 41.4 MiB (1%)
Alignment                                : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration                     : 17  ms (1.00 video frame)

John EB

 

 

v850tw wrote on 5/8/2017, 4:11 PM

So then, this is not MainConcept?

johnebaker wrote on 5/8/2017, 6:47 PM

Hi

. . . . So then, this is not MainConcept? . . . .

That is the Intel HD codec.

Unless there is a specific reason why you want the MainConcept codec there is no need for it.

. . . . Some of my projects have had lots of motion, and the only way I could get a good export with no blocky artifacts was to export as avi at a very high bitrate, and then load the avi in to gopro studio and export as mp4 . . . .

What is the final destination of your exported videos - Youtube, Vimeo, playing on computer or TV etc?

What mp4 export option are you selecting in MEP - click the Display all to see all the available options as shown below

Note: you will not have the top 2 listed in the image above they are custom settings that I have saved.

John EB

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VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

v850tw wrote on 5/8/2017, 9:27 PM
Unless there is a specific reason why you want the MainConcept codec there is no need for it.

What is the final destination of your exported videos -

What mp4 export option are you selecting in MEP - click the Display all to see all the available options as shown below

John EB

Earlier in this thread, it was asked me if I had it or not. I was told I needed it. Most my footage is highly compressed AVCHD files. They are harder to decode. A more pro camera would be shooting mp4 at a 50kbps bitrate as compared to AVDHD at 28kbps. Some videos are more of a challenge for Magix to export because of movement, or faint graduations in a gray sky... or something like that. I generally use the Full HD mp4 codec for export. If I was able to shoot no higher than a 60 shutter setting, I sometimes export at 29.97 instead of 59.94

One video I made down at Key West, Florida, was extremely difficult to export without artifacts. All my cam files are at max quality which is about 28kbps although they average 25kbps. I have tried changing some of the values in the export codec. A 60 GOP is kind of long when you need a fresh update rather than the codec borough image information from the next or previous frame. The default is 60, and I am having much better luck with it on 25, and I raise the bitrate up a little also. I am no stranger to compressing video files. Sometimes in the older SD world, I would manually configure TMPGEnc, to get better looking playback on DVDs than the authoring program I used could encode. Those tough projects were high action such as hydro boat races.

This is one example from long ago.... This is SD video

Using the AVCHD codec for export was much more problematic. Exporting to .avi was faster than mp4, and then I imported to gopro and exported to mp4 and it looked sharp, detailed, and no artifacts. Thats all I want... is to finish a project and not have to wrestle with this editor to get a final good looking video.

I am using the videos on youtube, and computer playback to a large flat screen TV.

Maybe it should be another topic... but it is irritating to finish a project, export it, and then later want to make some changes, and do another export and then there are a few clips with no audio. Nothing had changed with file locations. Why doesn't Magix have a solution to re-link the audio? This happens to frequently just when you least expect it.

I thought the MainConcept codec might do a better job than what I was experiencing, based on replies above.

Glenn

Thanks for your time.

 

johnebaker wrote on 5/9/2017, 5:05 AM

Hi

. . . . Earlier in this thread, it was asked me if I had it or not. I was told I needed it . . . .

AFAICS there has been no mention in this topic (or your other posts about VPX) that you must have the MainConcept codec.

The issues you are having have been covered in your previous topic here

. . . . I am using the videos on youtube . . . .

YouTube converts your video to different resolutions/compression to cater for slower Internet connections - this can be as low as 240p, which is below about half NTSC SD resolution.

. . . . I thought the MainConcept codec might do a better job than what I was experiencing, based on replies above. . . . .

 

IMO the Intel codec is better than the MC codec, especially when used with the HD 4600 or later integrated graphics of the Intel i5 and i7 processors.

John EB

 

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

v850tw wrote on 5/9/2017, 10:10 AM
AFAICS there has been no mention in this topic (or your other posts about VPX) that you must have the MainConcept codec.

The issues you are having have been covered in your previous topic here

I was under the impression that I was missing something in the mp4 area because of your post and another. "You are missing these options because the mp4 codec has not been installed or activated."

emmrecs wrote: The Main Concept mp4 codec is now a purchased addition (in the UK it costs about £5 GBP, I think). If you do not have this codec then the "default" (Magix?) one will be used.

The above 2 comments gave me the impression I was missing this codec and needed it...

emmrecs wrote on 5/9/2017, 10:18 AM

Sorry if I unintentionally misled you. When I wrote the statements above, I meant them at face value, i.e you do not currently have the MC codec. I certainly did not intend that to imply that you "needed it"; it is available to buy but not essential.

Jeff

Win 10 Pro 64 bit, Intel i7 Quad Core 6700K @ 4GHz, 32 GB RAM, NVidia GTX 1660TI and Intel HD530 Graphics, MOTU 8-Pre f/w audio interface, VPX, MEP, Music Maker, PhotoStory Deluxe, Photo Manager Deluxe, Xara 3D Maker 7, Samplitude Pro X7 Suite, Reaper, Adobe Audition 3, CS6 and CC, 2 x Canon HG10 cameras, 1 x Canon EOS 600D, Akaso EK7000 Pro Action Cam

v850tw wrote on 5/9/2017, 10:28 AM

Sorry if I unintentionally misled you. When I wrote the statements above, I meant them at face value, i.e you do not currently have the MC codec. I certainly did not intend that to imply that you "needed it"; it is available to buy but not essential.

Jeff


No prob. Jeff... Do you use the MC codec?

emmrecs wrote on 5/9/2017, 10:40 AM

Yes, if evidence of the output files suggests it is the better one to use.  In practice, I have found NO recent projects where the MC codec offers a "better" output than the default one(s) which VPX offers. BUT, I have not needed to export much, if any, HD footage recently.

Jeff

Win 10 Pro 64 bit, Intel i7 Quad Core 6700K @ 4GHz, 32 GB RAM, NVidia GTX 1660TI and Intel HD530 Graphics, MOTU 8-Pre f/w audio interface, VPX, MEP, Music Maker, PhotoStory Deluxe, Photo Manager Deluxe, Xara 3D Maker 7, Samplitude Pro X7 Suite, Reaper, Adobe Audition 3, CS6 and CC, 2 x Canon HG10 cameras, 1 x Canon EOS 600D, Akaso EK7000 Pro Action Cam

johnebaker wrote on 5/9/2017, 2:15 PM

Hi

I can see the confusion that has arisen in both directions - apologies are in order.

From what you posted originally I assumed that you had at least installed the codec and you just could not activate it and you should have had the Preferred codec option in the Program settings, Import/Export tab.

However once you had posted the image of the above tab with no drop down boxes it was clear the codec was not installed.

@ Jeff

. . . if evidence of the output files suggests it is the better one to use . . .

Interesting - what factors influence your decision to switch to the MC codec?

John EB

 

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

v850tw wrote on 5/9/2017, 6:22 PM

Yes, if evidence of the output files suggests it is the better one to use.  In practice, I have found NO recent projects where the MC codec offers a "better" output than the default one(s) which VPX offers. BUT, I have not needed to export much, if any, HD footage recently.

Jeff


Jeff.... if you are not exporting HD what are you doing... UHD?

emmrecs wrote on 5/10/2017, 3:09 AM

The majority of my exports recently have been to DVD, hence SD! (It is a common misunderstanding of the DVD standard that it can export in anything other than SD.)

Could I make a request of you, please? Do not post entirely in bold; it can make you appear to be almost shouting!

Jeff

Win 10 Pro 64 bit, Intel i7 Quad Core 6700K @ 4GHz, 32 GB RAM, NVidia GTX 1660TI and Intel HD530 Graphics, MOTU 8-Pre f/w audio interface, VPX, MEP, Music Maker, PhotoStory Deluxe, Photo Manager Deluxe, Xara 3D Maker 7, Samplitude Pro X7 Suite, Reaper, Adobe Audition 3, CS6 and CC, 2 x Canon HG10 cameras, 1 x Canon EOS 600D, Akaso EK7000 Pro Action Cam