Both Movie Studio 17 and 18 fail to start... This has happened before

tsoilihoi wrote on 5/13/2022, 2:15 AM

I click on the icon, it blinks and in gone. I check the task manager and its loaded. This happened to both programs
last year, requiring re-installation. My Sound Forge works, another Magix Program. I do not have any issues with the many programs I have loaded, just this periodical failure. Its not the antivirus. Maybe something with Magix server and verification?
Please, advise. There is not error message, just doesn't appear.

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CubeAce wrote on 5/13/2022, 2:27 AM

@tsoilihoi

Hi.

Have you checked that both Windows and any graphics drivers are up to date? If Windows is the current version but the drivers have not been updated to match the operating system then such odd things can happen.

If you have an older nvidia graphics card where the driver updates have stopped happening, that too may have become a problem.

It really does help to have your complete current computer specs in your signature to answer such questions.

Ray.

 

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tsoilihoi wrote on 5/13/2022, 4:05 AM

thank you CubeAce... This occurred several times. I just had a Microsoft Windows Update and it could have been from that... I uninstalled and off course it did not complete. I was not allowed to install because the uninstall had not completed. So I deleted the program files and rebooted. Then I was able to reinstall as the .dll files were unloaded and magixally disappeared. Now it works. Funny the movie studio 18 would not work but now it does.
17 and 18 are joined at the hip. The updater in 17 version 3....? was seen as a virus by Webroot. I uninstalled it.
I should clarify that the installation file for the undater in the cache was blocked, yet the updater installed and worked. However I removed it. In the end, I don't know why 17 won't start. Perhaps the verifying server was down and the programs went to sleep, LOL. These things are rarely my machine, but something caused by the many Microsoft updates and the vendors lack of updates to the plethora of changes. Otherwise I have little problems with win 10. I am holding off on windows 11 as my first go with it was disappointing. PB

browj2 wrote on 5/13/2022, 6:45 AM

@tsoilihoi

Hi,

You indicate that Movie Studio

17 and 18 are joined at the hip.

I don't think so. I just thought that I would point out that MS17 was by Vegas, MS18 by Magix, a copy of Movie Edit Pro. They are entirely different programs.

If neither even starts, then something is wrong with your setup, installation or something, not with the programs.

You may want to try using the Microsoft uninstall tool first to make sure that the program(s) are completely uninstalled, then install them again.

And, of course, add in your complete computer and OS specs to your signature as indicated by Ray.

John CB

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CubeAce wrote on 5/13/2022, 6:54 AM

Hi.

I too am still on Windows 10.

There appears nothing wrong with the servers as my Copy of MS 16 is opening flawlessly.

I think it is better on average to make an exception to scanning a folder to be given to any antivirus \ malware software than uninstall a needed program and cause multiple broken registry items or the possibility of deleting a needed dll. file that may need to be shared between more than one program.

Uninstalling a program should be the last resort rather than an earlier one.

From the perspective of other users trying to help we have no real idea of where to start trying to help without as much possible relevant information as possible being supplied.

Leaving out such details sometimes puts a person that may be able to help off of replying and playing an unnecessary game of twenty questions.

Your choice of course but expect possible slower replies to queries.

Ray.

 

 

 

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Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5011

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 560.81 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

tsoilihoi wrote on 5/13/2022, 11:05 AM

Guys, I was able by manhandling the files, to uninstall 17. I rebooted and then could reinstall. Now it works fine and 18 which suffered the same fate, works. So, It could have been the antivirus, Webroot, but I turned it off and there were no quarantined files. Also the programs have run for 6 months just fine. I had a windows update a few days ago and always wonder what those will do to my setup. I keep a full image backup of the drive, so "going back" is not big deal. There is always the server to consider and I suspect that there may be more than one serving their clientelle. Again, I never have issues with the many programs I have and that both were affected, I have to ask myself what is common to make the icon blink on and then off. Maybe Magix isn't 'answering the phone' LOL.

Jayhawk-226 wrote on 6/26/2023, 9:36 PM

Hi! This problem seems to be happening to me now as well. It worked fine, and now, after I started my computer again, when I click the icon, the cursor loads for a second then nothing else happens! This is incredibly annoying, as I have followed the above advice several times, and now this isn't working again! (I am on Win 11 using Movie Studio 17.0 Platinum)

emmrecs wrote on 6/27/2023, 6:13 AM

@Jayhawk-226

Please read this pinned post and follow the advice given there.

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