Problem with two sidechains in the same channel

GFP escrito el 08.03.AM a las 11:37 horas

Good morning

I have read the manual and it is not clear what problem I have. Let me explain.

My DAW is Samplitude Pro X8. I have an electric guitar channel in which I have two ProQ3 plugins installed, which, using sidechain and dynamic equalization, attenuate the bass and percussion masks. I have verified that when I open the first instance, which is the one that attenuates the bass masks, the Q point also moves with the sound of the percussion, even though this second point is at a different frequency. And if I open the ProQ3 that attenuates the percussion, I see that the Q also moves with the sound of the bass. That is, both plugins act at the same time.

Also, since the two plugins are on the same channel, when I check the activation checkboxes for the instruments, I see that both instruments have the checkboxes activated, so they act together, and this is not what I want.

In Samplitude, when a channel sidechains with another, the first channel becomes an auxiliary channel and so this is where the problem lies. I think it is a problem with the sidechain routing in Samplitude and not with the plugins themselves, as I have found the same behavior even with native Samplitude plugins.

Samplitude is summing or sharing the sidechain signal on the same channel instead of keeping them separate.

How can I fix this?

Comentarios

SP. escrito el 11.03.PM a las 16:39 horas

@GFP I didn't have time to test this problem, yet. I recommend you ask the question in the official Samplitude forum at https://community.samplitude.com or contact customer support at proservice@magix.net to get a faster answer.

GFP escrito el 11.03.PM a las 22:13 horas

I asked the technical support question three days ago. I am still waiting for the answer.

SP. escrito el 12.03.AM a las 00:07 horas

@GFP Yeah, this can take some time. The longest I had to wait were 7 days. I recommend you to ask for a follow-up response after a week or to just create a topic in the Samplitude Forum mentioned above. Over there are also some Samplitude developers and professional users. It is likely you'll get a response there.

GFP escrito el 12.03.AM a las 00:39 horas

Thank you.
I'm afraid Samplitude can't do what I described above. However, other DAWs do it without any problems.

SP. escrito el 12.03.AM a las 03:07 horas

@GFP Maybe. If you do it in another way, for example placing the plugins on two different tracks?

GFP escrito el 12.03.PM a las 12:26 horas

Duplicating a channel by doing that? Duplicating a channel means other problems later.

SP. escrito el 12.03.PM a las 15:26 horas

@GFP For example, create two submix bus channels and send your guitar channel output to the first submix bus and the output of the first submix bus to the second submix bus.

On each bus you insert ProQ3.

After that, your can select your bass as sidechain input in the first ProQ3 and drums as sidechain input in the second ProQ3.

GFP escrito el 12.03.PM a las 16:37 horas

Your proposal works; you just send the signal to a single bus and it works. There's no need to send the signal to two buses, but it's not an elegant solution: create a bus and send the signal there, and if you later need to attenuate another resonance, you have to do the same, creating buses. Sometimes you have to add two or three buses per channel; imagine a mix with 20 or 40 instruments. It's not viable, nor is it a recommended or organized workflow.

Ideally, Samplitude could do this on the same channel where you're working, just as other DAWs do without any problems.

Thank you for your response and interest.

SP. escrito el 12.03.PM a las 19:38 horas

@GFP I personally use Plogue Bidule in combination with Blue Cat Audio Connector to route everything like I want without being limited by any DAW.