Huge file length difference

emmrecs escrito el 27.03.PM a las 17:01 horas

Running VPX 15.0.5.211. I have been asked by a paying client to "revise and re-edit" the content of a DVD of her family, so no copyright problems. The actual DVD was clearly created by means of the type of recorder which simply played the original VHS tape and burned it directly to DVD.

Extracting the .VOB files to my computer is no problem but VPX is "experiencing problems" when attempting to play these files. DVD Decrypter reports there is no encryption in use so I don't think that is the cause.

Essentially, taking one .VOB as an example, MediaInfo reports that file as follows. Notice especially its time length, 6 minutes 21 seconds.

However, when only that file is opened on the VPX timeline it is now nearly 1 hour 12 minutes!

Choosing to import it to the VPX timeline immediately triggers creation of a new frame table (since VOB is basically mpg, so such a step is expected).

Also, on playback, it seems that VPX is "adding" black frames, typically a group of 3 or 4 every second or so, thus disrupting viewing; I also opened the file in MEP Premium 17.0.2.166, with exactly the same results. Viewing the same file in Cyberlink PowerDVD 17 Ultimate, no black frames!

I would be very grateful for ANY advice on this. Clearly, because this is a client's file I am not at liberty to post it anywhere for others to test, unfortunately.

TIA

Jeff

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johnebaker escrito el 27.03.PM a las 22:05 horas

Hi Jeff

That VOB has an impossibilty - the Video bit rate at 21.8 Mb/s is greater than the Maximum bit rate of 1 184 kb/s (1.184 Mb/s).

The width at 352 px means the video is a Half Horizontal Resolution (Half D1) format to save on disc space.

I have no issues importing VOBs with a custom matrix, Video bitrates lower than the Maximum bitrate, MediaInfo does report the bitrates correctly, and variable GOPs, however all the ones I have are not Half D1 format.

Playing the DVD / VOBs through a media player will play it correctly - they are within the DVD standard, except for that video bitrate.

Have you tried running the VOBs through MovAvi to correct the issues?

HTH

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

emmrecs escrito el 28.03.AM a las 10:38 horas

Hi John.

Thanks for your reply. Yes, there is something really "weird" about that VOB! Indeed, the whole disc has a number of strange anomalies. It is a 4.7GB DVD+R. Windows Explorer lists the contents of the Video_TS folder as:

All those on a 4.7GB disc?? (Now I know why I really hate those VHS>DVD Disc "automatic" burners.)

Thanks for the suggestion re MovAvi; I will experiment later today. Any suggestions as to which "format" to convert to?

Jeff

Win 10 Pro 64 bit, Intel i7 Quad Core 6700K @ 4GHz, 32 GB RAM, NVidia GTX 1660TI and Intel HD530 Graphics, MOTU 8-Pre f/w audio interface, VPX, MEP, Music Maker, PhotoStory Deluxe, Photo Manager Deluxe, Xara 3D Maker 7, Reaper, Adobe Audition 3, CS6 and CC, 2 x Canon HG10 cameras, 1 x Canon EOS 600D, Akaso EK7000 Pro Action Cam

johnebaker escrito el 28.03.PM a las 14:27 horas

Hi Jeff

. . . . Any suggestions as to which "format" to convert to? . . . .

Assuming the final destination is DVD then I would suggest a minimally compressed format - the source is already highly compressed and, as it has come from a VHS recorder, the need to preserve as much quality as possible is necessary.

HTH

John EB

 

Modificado por última vez por johnebaker el 28/03/2018, 14:31 Horas, modificaciones en total: 1

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.