Benchmark for Movie Studio 2023

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Reyfox schrieb am 02.03.2023 um 11:49 Uhr

I would think that the graphics card would handle the monitors, yes? And since on my computer, the GPU is hardly used, and overall CPU usage is low also, while that could be a problem (I'll disconnect the 4K monitor), I don't think it would make that much of a difference.

 

CubeAce schrieb am 02.03.2023 um 13:02 Uhr

@Reyfox

I have no idea. I'm not a programmer, but I do notice that on some more complex projects if I start to get playback problems that reducing the physical size of the monitor window within the program sometimes helps, so I assume that there is more processing going on with producing the rescaled image in that monitor. In the past some of us have also noticed that with tower cases at least, running the main program window within the Intel powered monitor seems to be more favourable over running the program on the nvidia one.

There are so many variables to take into account when wondering why an apparently more powerful system is giving what on the surface may seem poorer results I think it prudent to try to think of as many reasons as possible to account for the variations.

Ray.

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.4894

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 560.81 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

Reyfox schrieb am 02.03.2023 um 13:20 Uhr

@CubeAce

Ray, for sure about what you are saying. There are many variables to this including what is running in the background of your computer when testing.

Looking at the results, it seems that 9th and 10th Intel seem to be getting the best scores. At least we are starting to be a metric on performance of hardware.

Marc-Goder schrieb am 02.03.2023 um 23:08 Uhr

@CubeAce @Reyfox @Ehemaliger User @johnebaker @MarcinKrk

What about the impact of codec packs ???  Do you have any installed ?

I don't use them because of bad experiences in previous years.

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Magix Video Deluxe 2022 Premium (2.138)

Rechner: MSI Leopard GP76 , Intel I7-10870H,

NVidia RTX 3060 Mobile (TDP=130 Watt) (6GB),
Treiber-Version 31.0.15.5222

Arbeitsspeicher RAM 16GB,

Intel HD 630 On-Board I-GPU= deaktiviert.

Windows 10 (Auto-Update + Manuell) Ver.19045.4355

Weitere Video Software: CAPCUT
Konverter: Handbrake

Since 03.02.2024 experementil successfull with K-Lite-Codec Pack.

( Windows 11 kann ich nicht. Krieg ich Blähungen und Bluthochdruck von )

 

CubeAce schrieb am 03.03.2023 um 00:21 Uhr

@MarcinKrk

Hi.

I lost the ability to view thumbnails of mp4 files so I did add the K-Light mp4 codec. Doesn't seem to have caused any problems for me.

Ray.

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.4894

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 560.81 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

johnebaker schrieb am 03.03.2023 um 10:48 Uhr

@Marc-Goder

Hi

. . . . What about the impact of codec packs . . . .

I am with you on this one, I avoid, and advise not to install, the 'all in one' packs which have been known to cause issues with the the Magix codecs.

@CubeAce use, for fixing the thumbnail issue, is a peculiar situation which is known to hit some users for an unspecified reason.

John EB

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VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

Reyfox schrieb am 03.03.2023 um 12:52 Uhr

@Marc-Goder, some how, my Win10 Pro all of a sudden stopped showing thumbnails. I did everything that was necessary according to Windows help, reddit, videos, etc., (deleting cache, etc..), to no avail. This made working with photos and video unbearable because without I thumbnail, there is no way for me to know what the file represents.

So, I tried K-Lite basic, and all the thumbnails appeared. Life was good again. It caused for me, no issues at all with any of the editing software I have on my computer. Resolve Studio 18, Vegas Pro 20, Pinnacle Studio 26 Ultimate, Videostudio Pro Ultimate 2022, MEP 2022 Plus, VPX 12 all worked with the files I shoot and edit. I did not notice any abnormalities, performance degradation, etc., after installing K-Lite. It was a "last resort" for me.

I have since migrated over to a clean installation on a new NVME drive of Win11 Pro, and no longer have that problem. So, for me, no, I do not have any additional codecs installed.

Marc-Goder schrieb am 03.03.2023 um 13:24 Uhr

This would probably only result in performance problems when playing on the timeline. Probably less when exporting.

Magix Video Deluxe 2022 Premium (2.138)

Rechner: MSI Leopard GP76 , Intel I7-10870H,

NVidia RTX 3060 Mobile (TDP=130 Watt) (6GB),
Treiber-Version 31.0.15.5222

Arbeitsspeicher RAM 16GB,

Intel HD 630 On-Board I-GPU= deaktiviert.

Windows 10 (Auto-Update + Manuell) Ver.19045.4355

Weitere Video Software: CAPCUT
Konverter: Handbrake

Since 03.02.2024 experementil successfull with K-Lite-Codec Pack.

( Windows 11 kann ich nicht. Krieg ich Blähungen und Bluthochdruck von )

 

CubeAce schrieb am 03.03.2023 um 13:42 Uhr

@johnebaker @Marc-Goder @Reyfox @MarcinKrk

The lack of mp4 thumbnail view happened to me after I suffered a crash using VPX 14.

Ray.

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.4894

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 560.81 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

Marc-Goder schrieb am 20.05.2023 um 09:12 Uhr

@AAProds

Having the Resizeable BAR enabled made zero difference.

I feel the same about the Neat benchmark. There appears Resizable BAR also make no difference.

Magix Video Deluxe 2022 Premium (2.138)

Rechner: MSI Leopard GP76 , Intel I7-10870H,

NVidia RTX 3060 Mobile (TDP=130 Watt) (6GB),
Treiber-Version 31.0.15.5222

Arbeitsspeicher RAM 16GB,

Intel HD 630 On-Board I-GPU= deaktiviert.

Windows 10 (Auto-Update + Manuell) Ver.19045.4355

Weitere Video Software: CAPCUT
Konverter: Handbrake

Since 03.02.2024 experementil successfull with K-Lite-Codec Pack.

( Windows 11 kann ich nicht. Krieg ich Blähungen und Bluthochdruck von )

 

CubeAce schrieb am 20.05.2023 um 10:24 Uhr

@MarcinKrk @johnebaker @Reyfox @Marc-Goder @AAProds

Hi Marc.

There are a lot of variables to take into consideration for the results across these computers.

Al used one monitor plugged into the motherboard port. What type of port was it?

Al is using an Intel i7 13700K with a 3060ti which has a 256 bit PCIe bus with 8GBs of vram while some others (including myself) are using cards that only have a 192 bit bus and less vram.

If Al is plugged only into the motherboard video port (again not sure what type of port that is) how is the nvidia card being activated?

Did Al try using a port on the nvidia card? If that was slower, by how much and again which port?

Could monitors also play a part in in this? Resolution, refresh rate, port at the back of the monitor?

It was a very good result regardless.

Al should run the Neat Video test separately to see what that program decides is the best configuration (how many cores etc to use) and the amount of fps it can handle at which resolution.

To make use of resizeable bar it is my understanding one would have to see if Intel® Quick Sync Video was available in the drop-down boxes of the program. It is that technology that make use of resizeable bar as far as I understand it.

Ray.

 

 

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Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.4894

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 560.81 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

AAProds schrieb am 20.05.2023 um 11:47 Uhr

Al used one monitor plugged into the motherboard port. What type of port was it?

It's plugged into the HDMI port.

If Al is plugged only into the motherboard video port (again not sure what type of port that is) how is the nvidia card being activated?

I didn't do anything special; just installed it, updated the NVidia driver (bit confusing between NVidia and Gigabyte and Intel; Intel even says "bear in mind our driver might not be better than the Gigabyte driver".

Then I enabled the Resizeable Bar in the BIOS and that was it.

Did Al try using a port on the nvidia card? If that was slower, by how much and again which port?

Haven't tried that, the card came with nifty little rubber plugs in the 4 ports (3 HDMI and 1 Display port), and there they remain.

Al should run the Neat Video test separately to see what that program decides is the best configuration (how many cores etc to use) and the amount of fps it can handle at which resolution.

Neatbench is now giving best combo as CPU (10 cores) and the 3060, speed 46.9 frames/sec, but in Neat Video within MMS 2023 when I run the NV optimiser, it comes up with CPU (15 cores) 176 frames/sec. If I select GPU only I get 77fps and CPU+GPU 71fps.

To make use of resizeable bar it is my understanding one would have to see if Intel® Quick Sync Video was available in the drop-down boxes of the program. It is that technology that make use of resizeable bar as far as I understand it.

Can't see any option in MMS referring to Quick Sync.

No more overnight exports of a 15 minute video!

 

 

 

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All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 v22H2

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

VPX 12