@CarpentersMate

Hi Mike.

I personally only came into video editing in 2018 so I'm not completely sure what to recommend.

Although the packaging seems to indicate it supports Windows 10, unlike the previous versions of Windows, 10 has gone through constant upgrades as to how drivers work and the constant updates to Direct X so I'm not sure what would have ran without problems at the beginning of the Win 10 release would run as smoothly now as it did then.

I'm sure Alwyn at some point will give a better view on that.

In theory Windows 8.1 I think should be the sweet spot but I ran MEP 2018, and 2020 on Windows 7 with no real problems. Just make sure you have all the correct frame.net and Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributables ,files needed on your system to run the 2016 version as laid down in the advice on this page.

As for online security, stay off of dodgy websites 😆 and install a decent antivirus program. I have found the free version of Avast to do an excellent job although if you want all the bells and whistles upgrade to the paid version that has a lot more options at what seems to be a reasonable cost.

Ray.

@johnebaker @CarpentersMate

While I accept and agree with John's assessment of using Win 7 it is still interesting to note how many users across the world are still on Win 7 according to Microsoft at the beginning of this year. ZDNet estimates it is still 20% of all PCs.

Ray.

@CarpentersMate, @CubeAce

Hi Mike, Ray

I agree with Rays comment about antivirus program, I too use Avast and it performs admirably and is not a huge resource hog like some AV's.

However I would disagree with Ray over Windows 7 and 8 (end of life in 13 months) they both still have security vulnerabilities which will not be patched.

John EB

@AAProds

Hi Alwyn

. . . . There was no iGPU requirement back then . . . .

MEP 2016 was the first version that specified the requirement for 'Onboard graphics card with a minimum screen resolution of 1280 x 1024' after NVCUVENC (CUDA) encoding was dropped by Nvidia in 2014, and MEP moved over to using the Intel iGPU for hardware acceleration of h.264 (mp4 or MOV container file) and AVCHD.

I agree for SD and HD (720p) work a decent i5 or i7 should be able to export to mp4/MOV/AVCHD in a reasonable time, for exporting to a higher resolution the iGPU would make a difference.

John EB

Hi AAProds, Ray, John

Thank you for the ideas and input ...

As I mentioned, when I ran thru the old posts I couldn't find a clear cut answer as to which OS worked best. Its no problem for me to try both Operating Systems (except to get activated quickly within W7 Pro) then disconnect (get offline ASAP ... (all my other programs work fine offline). Likewise I NEVER go online with my Old Mac's (no need to). The programs are all 'non-subscription based.' I usually use at least 2 machines: One Online - One Offline ......

I'll check back later ......

Happy Holidays!

Safe Driving!

@CubeAce

I personally only came into video editing in 2018

I've been editing with MEP since 2004 but joined here 6/16/2017, it feels like you've been here longer & know a 1000 times more stuff 🤷‍♂️😂

@CarpentersMate

Hi Gid.

I've been heavily into photography since 2009 and was very active on the UK Fuji forums until they shut those down. There is very little difference between photo editing programs and video editing programs at a basic level.

If you look at my early posts here you will see I was just like everyone else who starts but I'm a person who likes to experiment a lot and not so much read manuals. To me they have been pages of last resort 😉.

I've been doing a lot of Photoshop stuff for years. Have done Photo shoots for several charities and organizations since 2011 as well as recorded orchestras, concerts, and events for them in my spare time.

So most of it is photography. Video when I get the time or at the same time with my DSLR in my right hand and video camera in my left hand. That's getting harder as I get older.

I do it for exclusive access. To get to places others can't and to help out.

Ray.

Hi everyone

Looks like I, and Alwyn IIRC, are the longest serving members - we were both in the original forum.

My bio would read:

• photography from age 11 - with a good old Zorki rangefinder camera
• video editing from 2000 - dare I mention 😨 - Premiere on MAC G4 - oh the heady days of the heavyweight (literally) computer
• taught digital photography
• started with MEP 11 in 2009.

John EB

@johnebaker @CubeAce Like you Ray I experiment until i work it out, if i can't then i seek help or read the instructions, (I never read the instructions for my tools 😂)

Unlike you two tho, I'm a joiner, I've got a practical mind & I'm fairly good with numbers because I work with mm's & they're often in 1000's, but my filming is fairly basic, I like to keep my videos simple, instructional videos can't have lighting effects or too much fancy crap in them, they need to be true to life,

Basically i stick nails in bits of wood & i've the memory of a fish, but once i've learnt something i can do it habitually, once i've learnt it a few times that is 😂😂

I started putting videos on YT 2004-ish, they were rubbish & short but every month i earnt £10, as Adsense doesn't pay out until you earn a min of £60 Igot paid £60+ twice a yr for posting crap 😂🤸‍♂️

But 2018 YT decided everyone with less than 1000 subs couldn't monetise their vids, i only had 600 subs 😒

So I deleted a lot/most of the crap vids & started putting more effort into making better vids, I've now got 350+ vids, avg 20mins long, 23,600 subs, & i earn between £300-£500 a month depending on how many vids i post 👍😁 a lot of this cash goes into my PC as it pays for itself 👍

@Former user

Hi

We are OT! 😁

. . . . I never read the instructions for my tools  . . . .

Have you a Ryoba or Dozuki ?

John EB

.Have you a Ryoba or Dozuki ?

Maybe one day, but i'm more of a site joiner, spent my time on building sites, mainly commercial, banks, pubs, shops etc. but i've slowly been building a workshop, maybe for my latter yrs 👴, it's a shed with a shed attached & another shed attached to that &.... It's very messy full of sawdust, if you have any OCD you'd hate it 😂😂

I found some information/advice I was given by Alwyn back in 2005 (I think), when I was using MEP 10 🙂

@CarpentersMate

Hi Mike.

2010? You should be light years ahead 😁😁😁

@CarpentersMate @johnebaker

Hi Gid.

John and I are very different as far as I'm aware although there are a few similarities.

I haven't studied much above 'o' level but taken some weekend and evening classes over the years.

I have worked as an assistant film editor and at a London sound studio, both connected to cinema, TV, and radio commercials. Then to get a job that actually paid I had to change and ended up working at a food processing plant for a few years and eventually when we were more stable I ended up being self employed like yourself after another bout of retraining. Photography and video work is purely a hobby. I don't make money from it or YouTube.

You wouldn't like me much as I do my own woodwork, plumbing, metalwork, tiling, and electrical work (PAT tested and certified by a neighbour). Reasonably close to retirement hopefully. I may then have to think of YouTube for an income although Ticktock may be easier 😉.

Ray.

Looks like I, and Alwyn IIRC, are the longest serving members - we were both in the original forum.

And a few others: Andy  @me_again , Jeff @emmrecs and Peter @Scenestealer . Oldies but goodies! 🙂

Here's some 'FUN' screen shots I created for the forum back in 2005:

http://www.ww2survivorstories.com/Magix-MEP-10Plus.html

Some of the contributors included: Alwyn, Scenestealer, mrsmr2, and DeadWizard

*These were posted strickly for fun (no confidential data) 😉

BTW John & Ray the gals at the Service Center were Awesome & Quick! Since (merging) 'My Products' now include four different versions of MEP!

How do I delete/erase/remove one copy of MEP 2016 Plus (missing disc) for a NEW one I just purchased? (Same Version: MEP 2016 Plus).

Thank You

Merry Christmas

Mike

Arrh, "DeadWizard" aka Richard/rfmmars/THE wizard. What a champion.

@AAProds @CarpentersMate @CubeAce @Former user @johnebaker

Hi All

Thanks for adding me to the list of MEP stalwarts!"

Arrh, DeadWizard" aka Richard/rfmmars/THE wizard. What a champion. Ahh - Who could forget!

My first foray into DV editing was with Ulead Video Studio circa 2000 and I was hooked.

I started with MEP2005 after trialing the previous version, after reading a review in a British Video Editing Mag and not being able to believe the features it included - like "Stabilisation" - very seductive!

So fully featured yet intuitive, and for very little money. Having worked in Film and television as a service technician since the mid seventies I had seen the professional programs like Media Composer which probably didn't do much more, but for $30K to $40K. Also remember observing an early 35mm movie scanner at about 1frame every 30seconds at Sir Peter Jackson's Weta FX facility, that then digitally stabilised each frame, and now I could now do this myself in my study.

Oops - maybe we are starting to sound like the 3 Yorkshire men in the Monty Python sketch......

Peter

@CarpentersMate Mike, I've just installed MEP 2016 Premium on my Win 10 i5 (from 2009 😲) machine and it goes like a rocket (well, as fast as my old i5 ever went!). I can happily edit 720x576 (VHS capture) and 1920x1080 (phone video). Export time to 1920x1080 is 4 times slower than the actual video length. For a $1500 system upgrade I could export 8 times faster but hey, I export overnight so I'll keep the $1500 for next time.

@CarpentersMate Well I'll be. I tried doing the online update for MEP 2016 and initially the prompt to get MEP 2022 came up. I closed that, and then the online update presented an update box for MEP 2016, which I accepted. It took the version from 15.0.0.90 to 15.0.0.114. Impressive!

Hey Alwyn How are you? Thanx for the comments ....!

Your test of MEP 2016 Premium on Win 10 i5 is encouraging! And the updates great! (maybe I can get those at some point)? The issue for me now: I have to get another machine. This Optiplex 790 was formatted with W7 and all relevant Windows Updates so there's no where to go except to W10 Pro in a faster machine. But with your input (and others), I think its a safe bet MEP 2016 and W10 Pro should work fine together.

In another post, I asked a few questions regarding the Intell Bulletin warning everyone to stay away from i7 4th generation due to the possiblity of intrusion and the loss of Direct X12. Apparently a 'stable' MEP would be a gamble with the loss of Direct X 12, which MEP depends on. Some folks have worked around it (rolling back drivers and disabling IGPU in the Bios), but few folks here have commited/confirmed that's a cure for MEP? My search has ended (for now) as I was looking at another faster Dell OptiPlex 9020 MT i7-4790 3.60GHz (but its an i7 4th generation).

Hope you have a nice Christmas 😉

Mike