Why Apple ProRes 422 video has no audio object???

Keith-Furman wrote on 1/17/2022, 12:55 PM

Tried using the new Filmic Pro app codec, Apple ProRes 422 video with 48 kHz PCM audio available on iPhone 13 Pro. But, upon importing into Magix Movie Edit Pro Premium 2021 or 2022 (after upgrading today) it has no audio object -- it has no sound and the properties say, "no audio object". Probably a codec issue??? The video shows it only generally as a Quicktime Import.

I know the video file has audio because when I import the same video into Corel VideoStudio Ultimatte 2021 the very same video file DOES have audio that plays just find and is recognized as LPCM audio and the video codec is specifically recognized as Apple ProRes 422.

I've updated my software TODAY until no further updates are available and still get the same problem, even after restarting/rebooting, etc.

Note that Filmic Pro has replaced its Filmic codecs with a short list of codecs that include only 10-bit, 8-bit, ProRes 709, ProRes 2020 (this one) and Dolby Vision HDR. It appears there is also a LT and HQ option for each which I did not use. So it's not like I can just choose a different codec -- THIS is the one to use with 422 color space.

Will there be an update soon to fix this?

MEDIA INFO shows the following:

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Complete name                            : D:\Videos\Videos PICS to sort with external drives gone\CHVF1120.MOV
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : QuickTime
Codec ID                                 : qt   0000.00 (qt  )
File size                                : 2.85 GiB
Duration                                 : 42 s 428 ms
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 578 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-01-16 21:30:21
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-01-16 21:31:03
Writing library                          : Apple QuickTime
com.apple.quicktime.location.ISO6709     : +30.1269-081.4484/
com.FilmicPro.FilmicLibrary.dynamicRange : prores
com.apple.quicktime.publisher            : ISO: 201.56085
com.apple.quicktime.software             : Created with FiLMiC Pro 6.17.8 build 23988
com.apple.quicktime.make                 : Filmic
com.apple.quicktime.model                : Pro

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : ProRes
Format version                           : Version 0
Format profile                           : 422
Codec ID                                 : apcn
Duration                                 : 42 s 428 ms
Source duration                          : 42 s 463 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 576 Mb/s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Variable
Frame rate                               : 30.000 FPS
Minimum frame rate                       : 28.571 FPS
Maximum frame rate                       : 31.579 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:2
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 2.316
Stream size                              : 2.85 GiB (100%)
Source stream size                       : 2.85 GiB (100%)
Title                                    : Core Media Video
Writing library                          : Apple
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-01-16 21:30:21
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-01-16 21:31:03
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings                          : Little / Signed
Codec ID                                 : lpcm
Duration                                 : 42 s 425 ms
Source duration                          : 42 s 453 ms
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 768 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 3.88 MiB (0%)
Source stream size                       : 3.89 MiB (0%)
Title                                    : Core Media Audio
Encoded date                             : UTC 2022-01-16 21:30:21
Tagged date                              : UTC 2022-01-16 21:31:03

 

Comments

johnebaker wrote on 1/17/2022, 1:36 PM

@Keith-Furman

Hi

. . . . Filmic Pro app codec, Apple ProRes 422  . . . .

The ProRes video format is not supported by Movie Edit Pro (MEP).

The video files will require conversion to another format eg MP4 h.264 AAC or HEVC h.265 AAC for importing into MEP, in addition the video is Variable Frame Rate (VFR) which may give issues when editing, to ensure that no issues arise this should be converted to Constant Frame rate (CFR).

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