Where to purchase licensing rights, additional info needed-

Sei wrote on 5/29/2022, 12:48 PM

I'm using the PC version of Music Maker Jam and I've been wanting to make and release music. I've tried to read around forums but I'm not sure if I'm just not understanding what the process is to be able to get the rights. I understand that the application is owned by Loudly - or at least produced by them, I'm not entirely sure on the details myself.

I use about six loop packages to create tracks that have styles that bleed into one another, and as far as I can tell I have to buy some kind of licensing rights for each of them in order to make revenue off of them (Which is a whole other can of worms that I've yet to figure out as I'm just really starting out into the world.)

But I'm not sure if I have to buy the literal tracks one by one or if it's the pack as a whole that I have to get licensing rights for, so clarification on that would help a lot, as there's no clear-cut answer that if purchasing the licensing rights is a one-off thing that allows me to re-produce and sell tracks using the sample pack as a whole or if I have to buy each and every single track that I use within the pack?

I never planned to make revenue off of the tracks initially, mostly since I used them as practice to help with learning how to structure songs and whatnot, but that's now changed since I wanna get a foot into the door.

So where would I be able to buy the licensing rights? I've tried "Catooh" but it leads me to a site called "Producer Planet" and I can't find the packs that I used within the catalog, so I'm not sure if I'm doing this right.

In the app, when I access the "more info" tab it says I already own the style, for each of the packs I use, but there's a section that says it's a "Non-Commercial" license, which can be clicked on but it directs me to a site that doesn't exist. I'm completely lost on what to do and I really want to see if I can get a commercial license or whatever kind of license allows me to really get things rolling.

I know this question may come pretty often, but there's no clear answer that I've found and I find myself unable to properly understand what's been said without proper explanation

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SP. wrote on 5/29/2022, 1:05 PM

@Sei You can contact Loudly via their e-mail help@loudly.com

PATIENT-X wrote on 5/29/2022, 3:22 PM

@Sei

Hello, welcome

Please read here with regards to your question.

You will also find a FAQ on same page.

Stephen

Forum Moderator

Sei wrote on 12/29/2022, 5:55 PM

@Sei

Hello, welcome

Please read here with regards to your question.

You will also find a FAQ on same page.

Stephen

Forum Moderator

I've attempted to contact Loudly but I'm not sure if they just don't respond to emails or if it's normally a 7+ month wait for an actual response. Some of the packages that I've used before from years and years ago I can't find anywhere on the app itself, so I'm not sure if this means that someone has purchased that pack or style's license or if Loudly just doesn't own it anymore. (Granted these are from years ago and are older songs that I honestly do not mind just trashing since it's obvious that I was learning with these songs.)

I mention style because that's how it's listed on the app itself, but I'm going to use loop package(s) just to refer to em.

I also can't find the loop packages that I wish to purchase on the site itself. I've tried to look at the Loudly page for MMJ (https://www.loudly.com/musicmakerjam/en/) but I'm hit with a 404 - Not found error.

SP. wrote on 12/29/2022, 6:05 PM

@Sei How often did you try to contact them? Only once or weekly?

The site is still up https://www.loudly.com/musicmakerjam

Sei wrote on 12/29/2022, 6:08 PM

Twice, you'd figure that if there was a prospect of getting paid they'd respond.

And that's odd, I've probably been using a dead link then

Smokeydabear123 wrote on 1/1/2023, 1:25 AM

Please let me know if you figure this out, I’m trying to figure out the same thing!

Sei wrote on 1/1/2023, 1:33 AM

Please let me know if you figure this out, I’m trying to figure out the same thing!

Yeah I got it figured out, I had to send another email to help@loudly.com but one of their reps got into contact with me. From what I was told, you don't need a license to upload the music you make. This holds true up until you make $5,000 from a single song in where you'll need to contact Loudly to get a more formal license.

These are the exact quotes I got from the rep:

It is possible to use the result of your work in Music Maker JAM commercially without purchasing a licence, provided you do not earn more than US$5000 from a single song. If you do manage to exceed this amount for your song, simply reach out to us again and we'll be able to come to an agreement regarding a license from that point on.

It is also important to mention that it's not possible to obtain rights to our artist collaborations/songs (e.g. JAM X mix packs) created using these loops, and these songs also can't be shared outside the MMJ Community. So, if you buy a mix pack and see that there is a disclaimer regarding copyright, it means that you are not able to share any music made with it outside of the MMJ community.

I sent another email back for clarification if this meant I could post my own music to sites such as spotify and youtube and the response was:

Yes that is correct, you may post it and monetise it. Once the $5,000 mark is reached you need to get in touch to arrange a more formal license.

Hopefully, this helps out you - and any folk in the future who were wondering the same thing I was. But I would 100% encourage and recommend emailing Loudly themselves just so they're notified as a heads-up.