@h-vanBommel Hi, can you click your icon at the top of this page - My Profile & fill in your Signature with the full name of your CPU, GPU & amount of RAM, also inc the Windows & Magix version, this will then show at the bottom of your comments,

Try having a look at the Timeline mode at the end of the timeline window. It's a bit easier to understand what is going on.

PS. There's a switch in Settings that might affect or resolve what your seeing happen (click Y on the keyboard)

Thank you for your reply.

In this mode, everything works fine. When I start playing, the moving red line starts on the red line with the red triangle. When I press space, the line with the red triangle moves exactly to the position where I stopped. So here everything is going well.

But when I go into the mode where I see an image of the individual movies, it goes wrong.

In the case below, I clicked with the mouse on the timeline in the middle of MVI_1849.MP4 with the mouse. The red line with the red triangle then appears in the centre of the next clip and not where I clicked. When I start playback, the moving red line does start where I clicked, see second image.
 

The position of the moving red line does not match the image displayed in the playback window. So it's very confusing all because I use these modes to cut bits from movies or to shorten individual movies.

I don't see any way to do that when I have the tracks in view, because then it doesn't glue the film together like in the modes with the images, but then gaps are created. 

What I have gedn so far:
1. bought a new version
2. loaded the latest update
3. tried several times with more or less separate movies
4. ignored frame adjustment from 25.00 fps (when loading) to 29.97 fps and had it executed

So far, the result remains the same and after clicking on the timeline, the red line with the triangle is set to the wrong position.

I work on a Dell Precision M4800 running Windows 10.

Hope you can find something to solve this.

PS I also installed the program on another (newer) Windows laptop. Same problem.

@h-vanBommel

Hi

I cannot replicate the issue you are having, however regarding your comment:

. . . .  don't see any way to do that when I have the tracks in view, because then it doesn't glue the film together like in the modes with the images, but then gaps are created. . . . .

When editing in Timeline mode, the selected mouse modes, ie Mouse mode for ... Single object, Single track and All tracks, play an important part in what happens when trimming/moving objects on the timeline.

Using the keyboard shortcuts to be able to switch quickly between the 3 modes also helps.

I would suggest you see the tutorials on Editing in this list of tutorials here.- note some of the tutorials are using an older version of the program, however the principles are the same.

HTH

John EB
Forum Moderator

@h-vanBommel Sorry I can't replicate this either 🤷‍♂️

Thank you John and Gid, but that doesn't solve the problem.

I work to cut or shorten scenes only in Story Board and not in Timeline mode because that's way too cumbersome compared to the Story Board.

1. In a directory, I put my unedited video clips in the right order (in this case, an approximate 350 clips, totalling 1.5 hours of film)
2. I import these at once into a new project on the first track (I leave the sound with the clip).
3. Then I play back in Story Board mode and use the cut and split tool to keep the fragments I want in the film. This works lightning fast because I don't have to worry about whether objects are shifted or not. The programme takes care of everything itself.
4. This went well for years because the Playback marker always stopped and started in the right place.

Now there is a discrepancy between where it should be and where I actually am in the film. This deviation increases the further I get into the film. So something is going wrong in the calculation of placing the Playback marker on the Storyboard images.

This is the data from the other laptop where it goes wrong:

OS Name Microsoft Windows 11 Home
Version 10.0.22621 Build 22621
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name MSI
System Manufacturer Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.
System Model Creator M16 A11UD
System Type x64-based PC
System SKU 1582.5
Processor 11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-11800H @ 2.30GHz, 2304 Mhz, 8 Core(s), 16 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date American Megatrends International, LLC. E1582IMS.508, 15/10/2021
SMBIOS Version 3.3
Embedded Controller Version 255.255
BIOS Mode UEFI
BaseBoard Manufacturer Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.
BaseBoard Product MS-1582
BaseBoard Version REV:1.0
Platform Role Mobile
Secure Boot State On
PCR7 Configuration Elevation Required to View
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale Netherlands
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.22621.1413"
User Name MSI\diken
Time Zone W. Europe Standard Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 16,0 GB
Total Physical Memory 15,7 GB
Available Physical Memory 6,23 GB
Total Virtual Memory 21,0 GB
Available Virtual Memory 6,47 GB
Page File Space 5,25 GB

@johnebaker @Former user

I too cannot replicate this problem.

@h-vanBommel

Did you do as John suggested and check which modes your mouse is in?

Ray.

@h-vanBommel Got to be honest i never use Storyboard mode, i find it slower & if you've got more than one track it's no good,

Adding 2.06hrs of UHD MP4s, Storyboard mode cursor is very hard to control & therefore what is playing, Timeline mode works perfectly well. As @johnebaker has mentioned, use the Timeline mode & learn about the different mouse modes.

This is def the wrong picture if the cursor is anything to go by. it plays but the cursor can't be trusted in any way.

Dear CubeAce, yes I tried all mouse options. It is a bug in the program.

Dear Gid, I see you can replicate it. In the old versions were the storyboard pictures were seperated, it worked awesome. But now there is a bug in the calculations.

See here the difference at the end of the movie. Hope you can contact the development department.

@h-vanBommel

Hi.

Why is your play button displaying a pause rather than a stop function while in play?

Ray.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

. . . . Why is your play button displaying a pause rather than a stop function while in play? . . . .

MMS 2024 does, previous versions showed a Stop button. I think the screenshot was taken while the timeline is playing - this would be the only way of capturing the offset being seen by h-vanBommel

@h-vanBommel 

Are the graphics card/integrated Intel GPU drivers up to date - the latest version is 31.0.101.4900, and it there a Nvidia or AMD graphics chip also installed on your laptop?

John EB

This just a small example of how the cursor becomes useless.

Thanks Gid, this is indeed the problem. 

I have made about 250 films with the older versions and have never experienced this. I use the storyboard for quick cuts and when I am done with that i use the timeline for sound, titles etc.

Using Storyboard to cut and shorten scenes saves me 2000 click- and drag movements compared to the timeline on an average film.

So I hope the development department fixes this problem soon because it's a pretty annoying bug. 

Dear John I tried it on different PCs and Gid replicated the problem so I don't think it is a driver problem.

I hope someone can wake up a programmer to see what's going on.

@h-vanBommel

I hope someone can wake up a programmer to see what's going on.

These are user to user forums, not any contact for Magix staff so I would suggest you raise a Support Ticket in order to bring this to the attention of the developers. To do this, start at the Support header from any forum page, always choosing the option to "Ask Support".

Jeff
Forum Moderator

@GID You are right, it is a little more work and I miss the easy overview of the clips in Story Board, but it works fine in the Timeline so at least I can try to make my movie :-).