@DominikStrycharski

It is definitely a lot more resource hungry than VPX 12. How well it behaves will depend a lot on your components. For me,VPX 14 is on the edge of usefulness. It doesn't freeze in use but can just crash out if I don't give my system time enough to complete a task before moving on the the next bit of editing which is a puzzle to me as VPX 12 had no such issues with the same material. I can see my GPU still chugging away for some considerable time after applying an effect for instance. Try to do anything before that activity stops and the program just disappears and no crash log is recorded.

However, others here with higher specified machines are having no problems that they are reporting at least. Less the known bugs from previous versions still not fixed.

Ray.

@DominikStrycharski

It is definitely a lot more resource hungry than VPX 12. How well it behaves will depend a lot on your components. For me,VPX 14 is on the edge of usefulness. It doesn't freeze in use but can just crash out if I don't give my system time enough to complete a task before moving on the the next bit of editing which is a puzzle to me as VPX 12 had no such issues with the same material. I can see my GPU still chugging away for some considerable time after applying an effect for instance. Try to do anything before that activity stops and the program just disappears and no crash log is recorded.

However, others here with higher specified machines are having no problems that they are reporting at least. Less the known bugs from previous versions still not fixed.

Ray.

Well my laptop is definitely powerful enough. With a MŚ 630 graphic card plus a second one, dedicated for graphics GeForce RTX2060.

So that means I should just downgrade? And install X12 again?

@DominikStrycharski

Have you run Task Manager to see if the laptop is maxing out in any area and both GPUs are getting used or a bottleneck with ram usage or drives? Do you have sufficient space left on the C: drives to allow temp swap files to be created and deleted as the program runs?

What Intel chip is it? I know @johnebaker has a similar specified laptop but running an i7-10750H and running VPX 14.

Ray.

@DominikStrycharski

Have you run Task Manager to see if the laptop is maxing out in any area and both GPUs are getting used or a bottleneck with ram usage or drives? Do you have sufficient space left on the C: drives to allow temp swap files to be created and deleted as the program runs?

What Intel chip is it? I know @johnebaker has a similar specified laptop but running an i7-10750H and running VPX 14.

Ray.

 

I always check my Task Manager. Absolutely nothing is maxing out.

I have over 100GB left on C:

I have Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9750H CPU @ 2.60GHz   2.59 GHz

For now I reinstalled VideoProX 12...

@DominikStrycharski

Your system in theory should be coping slightly better than my own then. I assume you are running the latest game ready driver for the nvidia card which should be version 526.86 and version 31.0.101.2115 for the Intel HD 630 and that you are completely up to date with Windows.

I am also running 64GB or ram but 16GB should suffice for 4K editing.

I do get the occasional playback hiccup but nothing serious.

Please forgive the lack of soundtrack but this was supposed to be for friends only and has some commercial music in it. The file may take a while to load.

Ray.

@DominikStrycharski

Hi,

See this although it may be too late since you've reinstalled VPX12.

Also, VPX14 is very sensitive to the material and the Hardware Acceleration settings in Program Settings - Device Options page. Under Processing, try one of the other options. Also try a different option for Import and Export, if necessary.

For the material, if it is from a screen capture program, then that could be the problem. Also, if there is a file that is slightly "off," VPX14 may not like it and grind to a halt or near halt.

What happens on my system is that the hard drive containing the file goes to 100% and basically blocks everything for a few minutes, then, as soon as I do something, it takes off again. Sometimes the program just slows down, other times it can take up to 5 minutes to return, or it can start giving me errors on the file upon restarting the project. It will hang part way through the file loading process, take a few minutes and either indicate that it can't find the file or loads it and then balks whenever I touch the problem object or objects.

I have had both problems recently. I run all of my screen capture videos through Handbrake as VPX14 does not always like the file.

I recently had a problem with one file recorded with my GoPro. Out of about a dozen files in a folder, VPX14 did not like one of them. I ran it through Handbrake, moved the original to a backup folder, and had no more problems.

I even had one file refused by the program that had been put through Handbrake - nothing else would read it either.

Sometimes, all it takes is 1 bad file in a folder that VPX14 doesn't like and it grinds to a halt.

Once I overcome these problems, VPX14 flies fine.

Do you have a separate graphics card installed? If so, what?

John CB

@DominikStrycharski

Hi,

See this although it may be too late since you've reinstalled VPX12.

Also, VPX14 is very sensitive to the material and the Hardware Acceleration settings in Program Settings - Device Options page. Under Processing, try one of the other options. Also try a different option for Import and Export, if necessary.

For the material, if it is from a screen capture program, then that could be the problem. Also, if there is a file that is slightly "off," VPX14 may not like it and grind to a halt or near halt.

What happens on my system is that the hard drive containing the file goes to 100% and basically blocks everything for a few minutes, then, as soon as I do something, it takes off again. Sometimes the program just slows down, other times it can take up to 5 minutes to return, or it can start giving me errors on the file upon restarting the project. It will hang part way through the file loading process, take a few minutes and either indicate that it can't find the file or loads it and then balks whenever I touch the problem object or objects.

I have had both problems recently. I run all of my screen capture videos through Handbrake as VPX14 does not always like the file.

I recently had a problem with one file recorded with my GoPro. Out of about a dozen files in a folder, VPX14 did not like one of them. I ran it through Handbrake, moved the original to a backup folder, and had no more problems.

I even had one file refused by the program that had been put through Handbrake - nothing else would read it either.

Sometimes, all it takes is 1 bad file in a folder that VPX14 doesn't like and it grinds to a halt.

Once I overcome these problems, VPX14 flies fine.

Do you have a separate graphics card installed? If so, what?

John CB

 

I have a second graphic card GeForce RTX2060.

I have a complex project edited in VideoProX12 without a big problem. It is possible to play this back and edit. It slowed down, since it's quite complex (and maybe the edit is messy as well, somebody did it quite intuitively regarding the timeline)

When I load it on VideoProX14 - it's just unusable. I mean it stutters every second, which is embarassing.

I am primarly a composer. I work with videos, but it's not my profession yet.

For now I came back to X12, since it's solid and I don't know what to tweak to make X14 work as it should.

But from what you say, X14 doesn't seem like a good idea.

The project I am using is not from a screen capture. All the files are from the same source.

@DominikStrycharski

Hi

As @CubeAce commented, you have the same GPU setup as me - Intel UHD 630 and RTX 2060 I am currently working with 4K UHD HEVC encoded video - not using proxy files - and VPX14 and the only time I have a playback issue is when using an effect such as a Denoiser.

Is the laptop the Hyperbook NH5, and the video file format and source still HEVC from the Experia 5 with a Constant framerate, as mentioned in your previous post ?

If the laptop is running Windows 11, check in Windows settings, Acessibility, Text cursor that the Text Cursor indicator option is turned off - some users have reported this as being turned on (after an update?) and this is known to cause the sypmtoms you are seeing.

The issue with some video file formats, @browj2 commented on, are known to occur, rarely, with a standard video file format where the camera manufacturer has included extra data channels in the container file.

A sample video clip about 30 - 60 secs long, which displays the issues you are seeing, for us test , would help. Upload to somewhere like Google Drive, Microsoft OneDrive or Dropbox or us a file sharing site such as WeTransfer and post a link to the file.

John EB
Forum Moderator

@DominikStrycharski

Hi

As @CubeAce commented, you have the same GPU setup as me - Intel UHD 630 and RTX 2060 I am currently working with 4K UHD HEVC encoded video - not using proxy files - and VPX14 and the only time I have a playback issue is when using an effect such as a Denoiser.

Is the laptop the Hyperbook NH5, and the video file format and source still HEVC from the Experia 5 with a Constant framerate, as mentioned in your previous post ?

If the laptop is running Windows 11, check in Windows settings, Acessibility, Text cursor that the Text Cursor indicator option is turned off - some users have reported this as being turned on (after an update?) and this is known to cause the sypmtoms you are seeing.

The issue with some video file formats, @browj2 commented on, are known to occur, rarely, with a standard video file format where the camera manufacturer has included extra data channels in the container file.

A sample video clip about 30 - 60 secs long, which displays the issues you are seeing, for us test , would help. Upload to somewhere like Google Drive, Microsoft OneDrive or Dropbox or us a file sharing site such as WeTransfer and post a link to the file.

John EB
Forum Moderator

Yes, the machine is Hyperbook NH5/NH7 from 2019. Yes, the footage is from Xperia 5 Mark 1.

I don't own Windows 11, still on Windows 10, latest build.

What do you mean by sampled video? A project, or just a mp4 render for instance?

For now I also reverted back to X12, to avoid frustration.

@DominikStrycharski

Hi

. . . . What do you mean by sampled video?  . . . .

A sample of video from the phone, which when you import it into VPX 14 makes it freeze and choppy.

John EB 

@DominikStrycharski

Hi

. . . . What do you mean by sampled video?  . . . .

A sample of video from the phone, which when you import it into VPX 14 makes it freeze and choppy.

John EB 

But it's not a single sample. It's a whole project. Which runs quite nicely on 12 and is unusable in 14

But I will send it anyway.

I believe @johnebaker is referring to when he says "sample video", is an actual sample video clip from the project where you are having issues. It would have to be uploaded to the cloud for download and testing.

Program works correctly 14.0.0.176. I9 11900K, RTX 4070TI,32GB RAM

@Liviu-Tatan

Welcome to the Magix user to user forums.

Which program works correctly? Video Pro X14, which the OP is writing about is actually version 20 so version 14 which you mention is now very old if you are talking about VPX.

Jeff
Forum Moderator