versions 2023 and 2024 Movie Studio Platinum on the same machine

Roberto-Goncalves wrote on 12/19/2023, 6:47 PM

Is it possible to install version 2024 and keep version 2023 on the same machine? If positive, how do I do it?

thanks!

Xara photo & graphic designer v17,v18 and v20(lifetime)

i7-8565U CPU & 1.80GHz / 16GB RAM / Intel(R) UHD Graphics 620 /Windows 10 Pro 22H2 / PowerDirector 4 years v12,v13,v15 Vegas MS Platinum 3 years v15,v17 Magix Movie Studio Platinum 1 year v2023,v2024

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CubeAce wrote on 12/19/2023, 7:57 PM

@Roberto-Goncalves

Hi Roberto.

Assuming you have bought a new full copy of the program and not paid for an upgrade which would be a replacement copy of the program, you would need to make a dual booted system. In other words two separate copies of Windows you can switch between on startup of your computer, or one installer will override and remove a previously installed version.

You will also find that if you deregister your old copies of the program at any time after installing an upgrade that the old copies of the program will disappear from your Magix account.

So nothing is impossible but probably impractical and there is little reason to keep an older version running when generationally they are close apart as differences in capabilities will be much less than going between two programs five generations apart.

If you are thinking a newer copy will run better than your current copy of the program, unless you have quite a well specced machine, it probably won't.

Ray.

 

 

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5011

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 560.81 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

Roberto-Goncalves wrote on 12/19/2023, 8:39 PM

See: I have plenty of reasons to maintain 2 versions: bugs. In this situation, I would use the previous version (or downgrade if possible), so as not to be so harmed. (Note that to uninstall a version and install the previous one, the customer still suffers the loss of at least 1 hour) Since I started this forum when I acquired version 2023, I have expressed how important it is to know about the routines that have bugs , to precisely get around them. I believe this is the only form of protection for the customer!
When I used the extinct Vegas Movie Studio, I kept the previous "files" just to downgrade or in this case
possible disc formatting problems, etc... But obtaining a separate file for downgrade in Magix Movie Studio seems impossible to me! (If possible, let me know how to do it!)

Xara photo & graphic designer v17,v18 and v20(lifetime)

i7-8565U CPU & 1.80GHz / 16GB RAM / Intel(R) UHD Graphics 620 /Windows 10 Pro 22H2 / PowerDirector 4 years v12,v13,v15 Vegas MS Platinum 3 years v15,v17 Magix Movie Studio Platinum 1 year v2023,v2024

CubeAce wrote on 12/19/2023, 8:44 PM

@Roberto-Goncalves

OK.

Short answer It is not possible without a dual boot system to have recent versions of the program on the same computer. Much older versions do not run on Windows 10 or 11.

It is however still possible to have multiple versions of Vegas programs on the same computer but may also suffer from not being compliant with current Windows builds. I notice older versions of Vegas programs not working with Windows 11.

 

Ray.

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Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5011

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 560.81 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

Roberto-Goncalves wrote on 12/19/2023, 9:02 PM

When I went to test version 2024, the installer deleted the 2023 version that I had installed! This made me unhappy to know that I would have to install version 2023. When I reinstalled, he asked if I would like to update to the latest version (2023). Why does she ask this if I had the latest version installed? Magix could instrument the installer with AI to remedy issues like this since programmers don't!

Xara photo & graphic designer v17,v18 and v20(lifetime)

i7-8565U CPU & 1.80GHz / 16GB RAM / Intel(R) UHD Graphics 620 /Windows 10 Pro 22H2 / PowerDirector 4 years v12,v13,v15 Vegas MS Platinum 3 years v15,v17 Magix Movie Studio Platinum 1 year v2023,v2024

browj2 wrote on 12/19/2023, 9:30 PM

@Roberto-Goncalves

Hi,

Why does she ask this if I had the latest version installed? Magix could instrument the installer with AI to remedy issues like this since programmers don't!

Don't expect too much. The last install of the full program for 2023 probably does not contain the last patch. The program detects this and asks if you want to install it.

One way around avoiding uninstalling the last version, is to upgrade to Suite if you have Platinum, or Platinum if you have Suite. I had 2023 Suite but upgraded to 2024 Platinum. Platinum did not uninstall Suite, so I have both.

Try this with the trial version.

Or, you can upgrade to VPX and keep MMS2023.

John CB

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John C.B.

VideoPro X(16); Movie Studio 2024 Platinum; MM2025 Premium Edition; Samplitude Pro X8 Suite; see About me for more.

Desktop System - Windows 10 Pro 22H2; MB ROG STRIX B560-A Gaming WiFi; Graphics Card Zotac Gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX-3060, PS; Power supply EVGA 750W; Intel Core i7-10700K @ 3.80GHz (UHD Graphics 630); RAM 32 GB; OS on Kingston SSD 1TB; secondary WD 2TB; others 1.5TB, 3TB, 500GB, 4TB, 5TB, 6TB, 8TB; three monitors - HP 25" main, LG 4K 27" second, HP 27" third; Casio WK-225 piano keyboard; M-Audio M-Track USB mixer.

Notebook - Microsoft Surface Pro 4, i5-6300U, 8 GB RAM, 256 SSD, W10 Pro 20H2.

YouTube Channel: @JCBrownVideos

emmrecs wrote on 12/20/2023, 4:04 AM

@Roberto-Goncalves

As you have found, installing a newer version of Movie Studio will now always uninstall the older version. Yes, it is not ideal but that is what Magix has decided should be the situation.

However, you should follow @browj2's advice! I too have MMS 2023 Suite and MMS 2024 Premium installed on this computer and both accessible.

Jeff
Forum Moderator

Win 10 Pro 64 bit, Intel i7 Quad Core 6700K @ 4GHz, 32 GB RAM, NVidia GTX 1660TI and Intel HD530 Graphics, MOTU 8-Pre f/w audio interface, VPX, MEP, Music Maker, PhotoStory Deluxe, Photo Manager Deluxe, Xara 3D Maker 7, Samplitude Pro X7 Suite, Reaper, Adobe Audition 3, CS6 and CC, 2 x Canon HG10 cameras, 1 x Canon EOS 600D, Akaso EK7000 Pro Action Cam

CubeAce wrote on 12/20/2023, 4:45 AM

@emmrecs @browj2

Hi Jeff, John.

I assume that would have to be a full version buy and not an upgrade offer?

Ray.

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5011

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 560.81 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

Former user wrote on 12/20/2023, 4:57 AM

I only Upgrade, apart from VPX14 I don't remmber whe I bought a new full version, I have 2023 Platinum & 2024 Suite installed

CubeAce wrote on 12/20/2023, 7:11 AM

@Former user

Thanks Gid.

Never realised this was possible.

Ray.

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5011

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 560.81 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

browj2 wrote on 12/20/2023, 8:08 AM

@CubeAce

Hi Ray,

As per Gid, once you have any version of MMS/MEP/VPX, you can upgrade to any of the them and any of their flavours at the upgrade price, so long as you are using the same account.

John CB

John C.B.

VideoPro X(16); Movie Studio 2024 Platinum; MM2025 Premium Edition; Samplitude Pro X8 Suite; see About me for more.

Desktop System - Windows 10 Pro 22H2; MB ROG STRIX B560-A Gaming WiFi; Graphics Card Zotac Gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX-3060, PS; Power supply EVGA 750W; Intel Core i7-10700K @ 3.80GHz (UHD Graphics 630); RAM 32 GB; OS on Kingston SSD 1TB; secondary WD 2TB; others 1.5TB, 3TB, 500GB, 4TB, 5TB, 6TB, 8TB; three monitors - HP 25" main, LG 4K 27" second, HP 27" third; Casio WK-225 piano keyboard; M-Audio M-Track USB mixer.

Notebook - Microsoft Surface Pro 4, i5-6300U, 8 GB RAM, 256 SSD, W10 Pro 20H2.

YouTube Channel: @JCBrownVideos

CubeAce wrote on 12/20/2023, 11:00 AM

@browj2

Hi John.

I'm aware you can cross grade but was not aware it allowed you to effectively keep two different generations of MMS on one PC if you had a variant of the program installed. (Platinum and Suite.)

Ray.

 

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5011

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 560.81 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

johnebaker wrote on 12/20/2023, 5:16 PM

@Roberto-Goncalves, @CubeAce

Hi

Like @browj2, @emmrecs and @Former user, I too have MMS 2024 Platinum and MMS 2023 Suite installed on the same PC.

John EB
Forum Moderator

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VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

Roberto-Goncalves wrote on 12/22/2023, 8:46 AM

Hi,

In the MMS 2024 Platinum test version, I was unable to evaluate whether there was a real improvement in rendering compared to the my version Platinum 2023! I only saw visual improvement! In this sense, did you who have version 2024 notice an effective improvement?

I tested version of the VPX15 (I have 8GB) and also in rendering I was unable to evaluate due to the restriction of the test version. (I liked the features of this version, greater control over the project, such as accuracy over frame resources, etc...)

Do you think I can work with 8GB on the VPX15?
(I have notebooks with Dell i7, limited to 8GB Note here that my videos do not require more than 15 minutes and are aimed at tutorials, manuals)

Thanks!

Xara photo & graphic designer v17,v18 and v20(lifetime)

i7-8565U CPU & 1.80GHz / 16GB RAM / Intel(R) UHD Graphics 620 /Windows 10 Pro 22H2 / PowerDirector 4 years v12,v13,v15 Vegas MS Platinum 3 years v15,v17 Magix Movie Studio Platinum 1 year v2023,v2024

CubeAce wrote on 12/22/2023, 10:34 AM

@Roberto-Goncalves

Hi Roberto.

The minimum specs page for VPX15 states a minimum of 16GB ram as well as an Intel Graphics HD 620 or higher internal GPU and an additional nvidia or AMD graphics card, preferably an nvidia card with at least 4GB of vram.

Although the Magix Movie Studio pages do not state the same I would personally take the VPX guidelines as more accurate if you are working with MP4 or mov files IMHO.

But more depends on what you edit and how you are editing. The length of the project will not effect the project requirements as much as the resolutions you work at and the amount of effects, sound tracks, and things like titling that you use. Titling and additional soundtracks can make a big difference to ram requirements as can a lot of the third party effects.

Most of my own videos are between ten to fifteen minutes but I can use up 28GBs of ram easily but I often use a lot of titling and sound track as well as effects.

Your system will never show a topping out of ram as there is always an amount left in reserve to keep the operating system working but in Task manager you can see the amount of ram that shows as 'committed' and that should never really exceed the amount of physical ram you have (The 'in use' plus the 'Cashed' amount shown) in my opinion. Not that the system or program will crash but data will get put onto the hard drive instead of loading to ram, slowing down the whole program.

Like I said in your first post, do you really need to upgrade? Don't ever expect an upgrade to run better than an older version if you are still running an older system. It might in a few instances depending on the workload but in general I find it doesn't.

As far as my own personal view, there are a few reasons to upgrade.

Sometimes an offer of third party effects I know I could use may be tempting but only if I think my current system will be able to cope with the base program and the demands of the third party effects.

I have finally upgraded my computer and feel I could benefit from better performance an newer copy of the program should give me.

I have a new camera and the files are not supported by my older program. This will inevitably also men upgrading my present computer.

So far for the third reason I have had to do that three times since Windows 98 came out but building my own computer has meant I have been able to upgrade parts bit by bit and have managed to spread the cost over more time.

Ray.

 

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5011

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 560.81 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

AAProds wrote on 12/22/2023, 4:45 PM

@Roberto-Goncalves

In the MMS 2024 Platinum test version, I was unable to evaluate whether there was a real improvement in rendering compared to the my version Platinum 2023! I only saw visual improvement! In this sense, did you who have version 2024 notice an effective improvement?

No improvement in rendering speed that I can tell. Unless there are things under the hood that have changed/bug fixes, all they've done is tart up (and made worse) the interface. Most buttons/icons are now smaller and harder to "hit". Looks cool though. 😎

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 v22H2

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

VPX 12

CubeAce wrote on 12/22/2023, 7:29 PM

@AAProds

Hi Al.

I forgot that bit.

I have never experienced an improvement in render speeds with a newer version. Then again I've never had the latest hardware to go with it.

@Roberto-Goncalves

The speed differences quoted if you look closely enough through all the associated blurb nearly always comes down to a specific hardware setup and file type used in their testing. Often it is buried in small print at the base of an image somewhere.

Seldom does it come from just the program. Newer versions tend to be released to keep up with newer components and the need for a few people to edit at higher resolutions.

I don't blame the developers, it's a part of marketing to show off what is possible and to not delve too deep into the downside of things.

This is not just a Magix thing. You can find similar claims on pretty much all video editing software sites.

Ray.

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Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5011

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 560.81 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

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David-Fitt wrote on 3/14/2024, 9:51 AM

Is it best to remove Movie Studio 2023 BEFORE installing Movie Studio 2024 Premium OR can I remove 2023 after putting 2024 on computer? Right now 2024 is not accepting serial number to activate software.

emmrecs wrote on 3/14/2024, 11:03 AM

@David-Fitt

As indicated by earlier posts to this thread, if you are upgrading from MMS 2023 to the same edition of MMS 2024 (e.g., from 2023 Premium to 2024 Premium) the new version will automatically uninstall the older one before it installs the new.

OTOH, if you are upgrading to a different edition (as I stated earlier, I have 2023 Suite and 2024 Platinum) the older version and the newer will happily coexist.

So, in your case, if you are moving from 2023 Premium to 2024 Premium the uninstall of 2023 should be automatic, you need to do nothing.

However, I wonder, since you say the serial number is not being accepted, whether you have actually upgraded to 2024 (i.e., you have bought a new serial key) or whether you are attempting to run the 2024 version with your 2023 serial key? If so, that will not work.

So, please tell us exactly which edition of 2023 you have currently and which edition of 2024 you are trying to activate and whether you have bought the upgrade to 2024. Thank you.

One other thought: if you have bought the upgrade from 2023 to 2024 ensure you are attempting to install and activate whichever edition you have actually paid for. Each serial key is linked to one edition; you cannot use a "Premium" key to activate a "Suite" edition.

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