Sorry, I stand corrected. It's the anchor point that has to be moved in the numbers and can be done but not by dragging the image with the mouse, but no actions are recorded by the key frame editor automatically or manually when changes are made. So you can not change or move a clip from one area to another or shrink or grow it so it can change or move across the screen during playback. additional key frame markers can not be added.

Ray.

Second Correction.

After restarting my computer and MEP all Size Position Rotations functioned within all modes of use.

If you have problems try a restart of the system.

Ray.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

Can you check this 'issue' I have found with the anchor point

For the most part it works as expected, however when you reset the anchor point co-ordinates the image moves to the anchor point rather than the anchor point back to the image centre.

John EB

@johnebaker

Hi John.

Yes I can confirm your results with MEP 2022 new update 21.0.1.107. However, is that the job of the Position box instead as that resets to center. I also notice rotation points are not being recorded or able to be added manually across the time frame.

[Edit]

The paste option is also permanently greyed out.

Ray.

@johnebaker

On separate notes.

I have loaded previous older projects with no problems now, either in playback or rendering videos or on exit. No freezing or lack of a full shutdown.

Proxy files seem to be behaving better than before using much less processing power.

Generally proxy files and pre-rendering seem to take less time than before as does a general project to export with some caveats depending on the effects in use.

Generally a much better spread of resource usage including more usage of CPU, ram, Intel GPU and nvidia GPU depending on what is going on during playback or rendering. Less vram is being used and never maxes out. Disc read write times slightly better.

Export quality is still good and MP4 for me still exports slightly faster then HEVC.

MP4 still ................................................HEVC still.

Ray.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

. . . . However, is that the job of the Position box instead as that resets to center. . . .

IMO is is the anchor point that should move not the image - consider the case of wanting to reset the anchor point back to the centre of the object while retaining the objects resize/rotation and current position.

On the separate notes - looking good.

John EB

@johnebaker

Hi John.

As rotation points are not being recorded along with the size / position key frames could that be where the problem lies?

Ray.

@CubeAce

HI

It could be - I am going to report this as a bug.

John EB

@johnebaker Hi, agreed, when i reset the position of the anchor point i expect it to reposition itself in the centre of the image, not have the image move to it.

So how do you reset the anchor point to the centre of the image without it moving the image?

@Former user

Hi

. . . .  how do you reset the anchor point to the centre of the image  . . . .

At the moment, the hard way 😕, a total reset of the Size/Position/Rotation and start over again .

I also checked this in Photostory 2022 which is not up to date on patches and the same issue is present - so it may have been in MEP and VPX earlier than the latest patch.

It is odd that no one has previously posted in the forum about this, I also did a quick search of the German forum.

John EB

@Former user @johnebaker

Hi Gid.

No idea. The SPR is only applying the last position I make at present.

Also files are still being imported with Interpolate Intermediate Images ticked.

Ray.

@johnebaker @CubeAce Yeah i just fiddled with it & feels like everything needs reset to full in order to get it back centre image 😕

@johnebaker @Former user

I have found a work around.

Left click while holding down control on each of the axis / size / position boxes within the key frame editor that you need and use the diamond to manually add each edit point along the timeline,

Seems to work.

@johnebaker @Former user

Actually I just found if you click / highlight all of them they are applied automatically.

Ray.

@johnebaker @Former user

Hi John.

You did not come back and say whether my workaround worked for you as you would expect it to or not.

I have tried to make a video to show what I did. Not as slick as you or others tutorials but should I ope suffice to show the procedure and whether it works as you want it to. I have never really played with anchor points before.

It's finished rendering to HD and 4K on YouTube and on the plus side it only took less than two minutes of rendering time for a just over four minute video. That's a slight improvement for me.

Ray.

@CubeAce, @Former user

Hi

I received a reply from Support regarding the 'bug' - the behaviour we are seeing is what should happen - I have changed some of the wording to match what you see on the screen:-

• Anchor point specifies where the video/image (object) is relative to the anchor point.
   
• Offset (Position?) specifies where the anchor point is relative to the 'output' ie finished movie.
   

If you make changes to the parameters as below:

• Offset parameter, the anchor point moves together with the object to it maintain the anchor position relative to the object.
• Anchor point parameter, the anchor point remains stationary relative to the 'output' and the image moves.
  
  Moving the Anchor point in the video monitor, both the Anchor point and the Offset are adjusted so that the anchor point is in the desired position BUT the image remains in the original position.
  
  If you then reset only the Anchor point, the Offset parameter remains the same and object is centred in the anchor point.

After experimenting with this last night the order and how you set the Anchor point and Position is important.

If you need to have the Anchor point offset to the Offset for animating the object, eg creating a slingshot effect rotating the object while the anchor point is moving along a path, then set them in that order - this enables you to both keyframe the Anchor point and Offset /Rotation correctly.

Changed: the naming convent to match that of the reply from Support

Hope this makes sense.

John EB
 

@CubeAce @johnebaker

Hi,

On to another problem that has been around for a couple of versions, the Edit Trimmer likes neither crossfades nor Magix transitions purchased from the Store. Pixelan transitions work fine.

With a cross-fade and playback, the crossfade is not shown, just a sudden change from one clip to the other.

With a purchased transition, like Stipe Collection, Geometric, Geometric Stripe 5, open the Edit Trimmer and you can't get to the transition; it will start with the beginning of the project. Going to the next transition, it will jump over the Geometric Stripe transition if there is another "valid" transition further along, or it will stay at the beginning of the project. Worse, if the Geometric Stripe is the third transition (2nd to 3rd clips), open the Edit Trimmer on the second transition (1st-2nd clips), it works, click on the scissors to go to the next transition and it will jump to the beginning of the timeline. Click on next scissors and it will jump over the second and third transitions and go to the fourth. You can't get it to stop on the second transition without reopening the trimmer with the second clip selected.

Another thing, with a transition that works, open the Edit Trimmer and change the transition to Geometric Stripe 5 (or another purchased transition). It will automatically playback but not show the correct transition, and then the playback marker jumps to the beginning of the timeline. Jump to the next transition (scissors button) will jump over the offending transition(s) and any before them.

At least one of the counters still does not advance a frame a time. Ctrl+Alt+clicking the arrow moves 5 frames, but clicking the arrow might move 1 frame once, but not a second frame. This has been going on for ages.

Another anomaly that I have to track down, somewhere in that, the trimmer is creating a fade in on the first object and fade out on the last object.

John CB

@johnebaker @Former user

Hi John.

I will have to process that information and get back to you. To me the two terms seem to be used the wrong way around..

Did they mention the problem of the effect not recording the key frames automatically?

What I didn't understand was how that center anchor point increased the image size when I placed it back nearer to the image I was rotating. Should that happen?

@browj2

Hi John.

I'm afraid John EB is going to have to verify your problem with the Edit trimmer, it's something I don't use personally. I could try and check it but I'm not sure if I would spot a problem.

I may try tomorrow.

Ray.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

I only changed the name of 1 of the 2 controls mentioned Support call Position: Offset.

It took me 3 reads and playing with before it clicked.

I was testing it step by step to get the feel of it. Getting to the point where I was able to keyframe a resized image rotating around the Anchor point at varying offsets while the Anchor point as moving in an approximate sine wave - that's when got the 'slingshot' effect.

I now know how to do an effect I wanted to try.

John EB

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

I only changed the name of 1 of the 2 controls mentioned Support call Position: Offset.

It took me 3 reads and playing with before it clicked.

I was testing it step by step to get the feel of it. Getting to the point where I was able to keyframe a resized image rotating around the Anchor point at varying offsets while the Anchor point as moving in an approximate sine wave - that's when got the 'slingshot' effect.

I now know how to do an effect I wanted to try.

Added: 

I just noticed in the keyframing Anchor is 'Offset'

. . . . the problem of the effect not recording the key frames automatically . . . .

No, however I did find they were working when however I found the best way to ensure everything was set correctly by ensuring that the top option of the keyframe group is selected - none of the sub keyframe types must be selected.

Post corrected to add missing image and finish last sentence

John EB

@CubeAce, @Former user

Hi

I received a reply from Support regarding the 'bug' - the behaviour we are seeing is what should happen - I have changed some of the wording to match what you see on the screen:-

• Anchor point specifies where the video/image (object) is relative to the anchor point.
   
• Offset (Position?) specifies where the anchor point is relative to the 'output' ie finished movie.
   

If you make changes to the parameters as below:

• Offset parameter, the anchor point moves together with the object to it maintain the anchor position relative to the object.
• Anchor point parameter, the anchor point remains stationary relative to the 'output' and the image moves.
  
  Moving the Anchor point in the video monitor, both the Anchor point and the Offset are adjusted so that the anchor point is in the desired position BUT the image remains in the original position.
  
  If you then reset only the Anchor point, the Offset parameter remains the same and object is centred in the anchor point.

After experimenting with this last night the order and how you set the Anchor point and Position is important.

If you need to have the Anchor point offset to the Offset for animating the object, eg creating a slingshot effect rotating the object while the anchor point is moving along a path, then set them in that order - this enables you to both keyframe the Anchor point and Offset /Rotation correctly.

Changed: the naming convent to match that of the reply from Support

Hope this makes sense.

John EB
 

@parisstudio

Hi

Please create a new topic on the issue you are having which is not related the the subject of this topic.

See this topic for more information of what is required and please quote processor and graphics card make/model in full. Putting the information in your profile signature will help so we do not have to keep asking for it

I will hide your post here.

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