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emmrecs wrote on 1/20/2023, 1:31 PM

@Phil-Hippensteel

There are two methods recommended in the forums for removing the remnants of any program which will not otherwise be uninstalled and so prevents a reinstallation:

  1. Use this Microsoft utility to complete the uninstallation of the program. Just ensure you follow the instructions very carefully.
  2. Use Revo Uninstaller to remove all traces of the program from your computer. There is a free version, which should do the job for you but, based on personal experience, I can highly recommend the paid-for Pro version since it offers an increased range of features. Again, ensure you follow the instructions carefully, especially when it comes to checking carefully everything it lists as files, folders and registry entries to be removed, particularly if you have other Magix programs installed.

HTH

Jeff
Forum Moderator

Win 10 Pro 64 bit, Intel i7 Quad Core 6700K @ 4GHz, 32 GB RAM, NVidia GTX 1660TI and Intel HD530 Graphics, MOTU 8-Pre f/w audio interface, VPX, MEP, Music Maker, PhotoStory Deluxe, Photo Manager Deluxe, Xara 3D Maker 7, Samplitude Pro X7 Suite, Reaper, Adobe Audition 3, CS6 and CC, 2 x Canon HG10 cameras, 1 x Canon EOS 600D, Akaso EK7000 Pro Action Cam

Phil-Hippensteel wrote on 1/20/2023, 6:11 PM

Thanks for trying to help. I carefully tried both utilities and cannot remove references that movies Studio Premium made to the failed drive. Hence it will still not install. I've wasted enough time on bad software. But do appreciate you help in trying this. No more magix software. Absolutely!

AAProds wrote on 1/20/2023, 6:23 PM

@Phil-Hippensteel

Just for our info, what was your setup? Did you originally have MMS 2023 installed on a different drive to your Windows drive? It does seem odd that if your Windows/system drive crashed, then it would have taken Windows and MMS with it so there should be no issue re-installing. You can have your project files and movie assets anywhere on your computer. it is a straightforward procedure to re-associate any lost files.

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 v22H2

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

VPX 12

emmrecs wrote on 1/21/2023, 4:02 AM

@Phil-Hippensteel

I fully endorse what @AAProds has written! There does seem to be something rather "unusual" about the original install and the hard drive failure! Assuming, as Al says, that you had MMS installed on a different drive to Windows (as I do) exactly which drive failed?

In addition, to write No more Magix software. Absolutely!  seems rather extreme to me. Presumably you are not implying that the installation of MMS somehow caused the hard drive to crash?

Jeff

Win 10 Pro 64 bit, Intel i7 Quad Core 6700K @ 4GHz, 32 GB RAM, NVidia GTX 1660TI and Intel HD530 Graphics, MOTU 8-Pre f/w audio interface, VPX, MEP, Music Maker, PhotoStory Deluxe, Photo Manager Deluxe, Xara 3D Maker 7, Samplitude Pro X7 Suite, Reaper, Adobe Audition 3, CS6 and CC, 2 x Canon HG10 cameras, 1 x Canon EOS 600D, Akaso EK7000 Pro Action Cam

Phil-Hippensteel wrote on 1/21/2023, 7:38 AM

I'm saying that nothing seems to be able to remove remnants of Studio. No other application presents this problem. Only Studio. Not three Adobe products, Office, Movavi or any other app behaves so poorly. The CPU manufacturer is going to replace the motherboard. Then I'll start over with a new install of Windows and reinstall all the apps-- except one.

Phil-Hippensteel wrote on 1/21/2023, 7:43 AM

To @AAProds, thanks for jumping in. Yes. MMS was in stalled on the SSD that failed. That drive is no longer in the computer. But the remnants of MMS are on the system drive and any attempt to remove references within MMS to the failed drive fail. Hence, no reinstall of MMS 2023. I think the uninstall of MMS should be able to deal with that. Ever other product can do this.

emmrecs wrote on 1/21/2023, 8:19 AM

@Phil-Hippensteel

Thank you for the additional information.

But the remnants of MMS are on the system drive and any attempt to remove references within MMS to the failed drive fail. Hence, no reinstall of MMS 2023. I think the uninstall of MMS should be able to deal with that

When any program is first installed it automatically creates an install log which becomes the basis on which the uninstaller works. Most, if not all, Magix programs, especially those concerned with video editing, create certain files, folders and registry entries on first and, possibly, subsequent runs of the program. In this situation the uninstaller cannot remove these files etc, because it does not know they even exist. As I read what you have written, that is the situation you are facing. Many other programs behave similarly so I honestly doubt your assertion that Every other product can do this.

However, having faced similar problems myself I am concerned that Revo Uninstaller failed to find these remnants of MMS. As I wrote before, I have the Pro version and it includes a "Forced Uninstall" option which the Free version may not have. Under that Forced Uninstall routine you enter the name of the program and, running in Revo's Advanced Search mode, it will search ALL drives for anything connected with the program you wish to remove. I fully accept you may not wish to purchase the Pro version simply for this current situation but, in addition to being able to resolve problems like yours, it also adds an item to the standard right-click menu of "Install with Revo Uninstaller". This goes "further" than the standard Windows Installer by asking the user, once installation is completed, to initially run and configure the new program before saving the specialist Revo Install log. Thus, this log also includes details of those files, folders etc., which are created on first run.

I note you say the CPU manufacturer is going to replace the motherboard. Is this replacement necessary because the failure of the SSD also caused some sort of damage to your motherboard? If so, that is most definitely not good!

Jeff

Win 10 Pro 64 bit, Intel i7 Quad Core 6700K @ 4GHz, 32 GB RAM, NVidia GTX 1660TI and Intel HD530 Graphics, MOTU 8-Pre f/w audio interface, VPX, MEP, Music Maker, PhotoStory Deluxe, Photo Manager Deluxe, Xara 3D Maker 7, Samplitude Pro X7 Suite, Reaper, Adobe Audition 3, CS6 and CC, 2 x Canon HG10 cameras, 1 x Canon EOS 600D, Akaso EK7000 Pro Action Cam

Phil-Hippensteel wrote on 1/21/2023, 9:03 AM

Thank you.

johnebaker wrote on 1/21/2023, 11:34 AM

@Phil-Hippensteel

Hi

. . . . That drive is no longer in the computer. But the remnants of MMS are on the system drive and any attempt to remove references within MMS to the failed drive fail. Hence, no reinstall of MMS 2023 . . . .

Despite you installing the program on a second drive, some parts must be installed on the System drive this is not avoidable as it is the ways Windows expects some parts of the program to be installed in specific Windows folders and locations.

The consequence of the crashed drive is that those parts of the program cannot be uninstalled.

The only option is to wipe the system drive and reinstall the OS system and programs.

. . . . CPU manufacturer is going to replace the motherboard.  . . . .

This would suggest that the initial failure was with the motherboard which appears to have 'taken out' the SSD drive, eg the SSD may appear to have failed due to issue being on the motherboard eg with a SATA controller port on the motherboard.

I would be wary of using the other components eg CPU, GPU, RAM and anything else attached to the motherboard, they may also have a pending or hidden failure.

John EB
Forum Moderator

 

 

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