unable to use videos from GoPro cam - HEVC/MPEG-2 licence problem

CubeAce wrote on 4/21/2021, 1:45 PM

Hi and welcome to the user to user forums.

There are no Magix staff present on the forums.

Have you looked at the required specs for Movie Edit Pro

and the Go-Pro Website explaining the problems using HEVC on a Windows computer that does not have an inbuilt Intel GPU later than Kaby Lake for Video Editing?

There are also other help topics on the Go-Pro website relating to suitable video editing packages for your Go-Pro or how to convert your files so they work with other programs.

Ray.

johnebaker wrote on 4/21/2021, 2:07 PM

@Tibor-Floky

Hi

The trial version of Movie Edit Pro has limited support for some video codec formats, these become available in the full version.

. . . . running those video is very choppy in MAGIX. In VLC I can smoothly run 4K 60fps video with no problem on my PC (notebook Lenovo ThinkPad T14 Gen1 Ryzen 7 Pro 4750U with Radeon graphics, 16GB RAM, 1TB NVME HDD . . . .

What VLC can do with video is not relevant to the performance of Movie Edit Pro (MEP) or any other video editor - it is a player not video editing software.

The choppy playback with 4K video is due to the AMD RX Vega 7 GPU, in the laptop processor, being below the minimum specification for MEP 2021. Thus the laptop has insufficient capability for Hardware Acceleration of the 4K video video for playback.

For 4K video editing, Ideally you should have a computer with an Intel processor with integrated GPU UHD 630 and 6 - 8 cores.

For the full MEP system requirements see here.

The video codec support in the trial version is limited.

. . . . I tried to use the newly converted H264 video, than MAGIC complains again that there is "MPEG-2 licence problem". And now it complains again - wher I`m trying to import same video files (H264), it says "QuickTime is not installed. QuickTime must be installed in order to play this file..." NO QUICK TIME DOES NOT HAVE TO BE INSTALLED... . . .

The VLC converted 'h.264' may well need Quicktime to be installed, however we need to know what codecs have been used to convert the file.

Download and install MediaInfo and analyse both the unconverted and converted video clips and post the results from the Text view.

John EB
Forum Moderator

Tibor-Floky wrote on 8/28/2021, 7:14 AM

Hello,

thank you for your responses.

Do you think, this laptop might be enough for smooth 4K 60fps video editing?

Lenovo ThinkPad P14s Gen 1 (Intel)

4core CPU Intel Core i7-10510U (1.8GHz, TB 4.9GHz, HyperThreading), 16GB RAM DDR4, graphic card NVIDIA Quadro P520 2GB GDDR5, disc 512GB SSD M.2 PCIe NVMe Opal2, Wi-Fi ax, GLAN, Thunderbolt 3/USB Type-C 3.1/3.2 Gen 2.

or this one?

Lenovo Legion 5

8core CPU AMD Ryzen 7 5800H (3.2GHz, TB 4.4GHz), 15.6" 165Hz IPS Full HD display (300nit, 100% sRGB, Dolby Vision), graphic card NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB GDDR6 (Boost 1560MHz, max. power 130W), 16GB RAM DDR4, disc 1TB SSD M.2 PCIe NVMe, GLAN, Wi-Fi ax

And yes, I`m also thinking of buying tablet "Samsung Galaxy Tab S7" which might be also powerfull enough. I just have a problem to find a good app for 4K 60fps editing which is not paid monthly/anually. I just want to pay once and than use it.

I would prefer the first one, if it is powerfull enought, because it has smaller display (14`` vs 15,5``). So smaller laptop has better portability and at home I`ll still connect big screen to it.

Best regards TF

johnebaker wrote on 8/28/2021, 10:06 AM

@Tibor-Floky

Hi

Of the 2 laptops you have listed the Thinkpad is the better option as you have both an Intel and Nvidia GPU's which can be used in a Hybrid mode - this is set in the Lenovo Vantage software. The downsides of this laptop are the Nvidia GPU which is a low end graphics card and the smaller screen (14") is not comfortable to work with for long periods when mobile.

The Legion 5 is disadvantaged in that there is no Intel processor with integrated GPU that can be used in conjunction with the RTX 3070 for better performance.

I have a Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom Black, i7-10750H 16GB 512GB SSD 17.3Inch FHD 144Hz GeForce RTX 2060 6GB and this handles 4K video well.

HTH

John EB

CubeAce wrote on 8/28/2021, 12:18 PM

@Tibor-Floky @johnebaker

Hi.

If you are interested in a second opinion, I completely concur with Johns' reasoning, findings and advice.

It is important with a laptop that both GPUs can be used within the program. Something not all laptops seem capable of doing when the graphics card is not designed to have a physical output as with the Quadro P520, which in my opinion is under-powered for this task.

Ray.

Tibor-Floky wrote on 10/8/2022, 3:46 PM

Hello,

me again :| What do you guys think about new AMD Radeon 680M buit-in GPU together with AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 6850U and 16GB DDR4 RAM? Would it be enough for smooth 4K 60fps video editing?

Thank you

TF

CubeAce wrote on 10/8/2022, 5:54 PM

@Tibor-Floky

Hi.

I'm not that familiar with AMD graphics cards but I'm worried that it only has Open CL 2.0 support which is behind Intel and nvidia capabilities. The Magix website says it should work but if in doubt I would contact them. There are people here using AMD CPUs but I think most of us are also using nvidia graphics cards and not AMD ones for the benefit of the NVENC hardware encoder.

TechPowerUp has the AMD Radeon 680M as an equivalent to an nvidia GTX 1650 which is a lower mid end graphics card, capable but slow by today's standards. The Ryzen 7 PRO 6850U CPU may make up for that though. You really need someone with a full AMD setup to answer this one and they may be a bit thin on the ground on this forum.

I hope you get a more informed reply from another user.

Ray.

johnebaker wrote on 10/9/2022, 10:20 AM

@Tibor-Floky

Hi

Before making a recommendation are you:

Wanting to purchase a new computer or upgrading an existing one with a new CPU and possibly motheboard?

Are you going to be gaming on the computer?

Are you likely to move up to higher resolution video such as 8K or higher?

How much 'future proofing' do tou want?

John EB
Forum Moderator

Tibor-Floky wrote on 10/10/2022, 7:54 AM

Hello,

thank you both for answers.

My answers for johnebaker:

- I`m planning to buy a new notebook/laptop. I prefer not to have a dedicated desktop PC just for video editing.

- No, I don`t play any games for a loooong time :)

- I`ll be fine with 4k 60fps. 8k is not a goal in my case

- if I`ll be able to create lets say 30mins of final video from 3-4 hours of 4k 60fps source videos, I`ll be happy till the and of my day :)

Thank you, TF

johnebaker wrote on 10/10/2022, 12:14 PM

@Tibor-Floky

Hi

Thanks for the extra information.

My personal recommendation would be a laptop of similar specifications to mine - with a later Intel processor with integrated GPU and a Nvidia RTX 20xx or 30xx series GPU - my laptop spec is in my signature below.

I work with 4K on my Lenovo - and can highly recommend them - it has a good performance with 4K video as both the integrated UHD630 GPU and the RTX 2060 are both used by the program in a hybrid mode which, of the manufacturers I contacted when looking for a new laptop, they were the only one who actually advertised and is definitely capable of operating with both GPU's.

One recommendation I do unreservedly make, irrespective of the laptop make, is to get one with 17" screen. A 15" is too small to work comfortably with.

Additionally, a 4K screen on a 15 or 17" laptop is, IMO, not a good resolution to work with - the icons text etc can be very small, a screen resolution of 1920 x 1080 is more than enough even when working with 4K video.

HTH

John EB

Tibor-Floky wrote on 10/21/2022, 11:42 AM

Actually I`ve already bought a new laptop yesterday (Lenovo T14 gen3, AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 6850U, 32GB RAM, GPU 680M) - primary goal was actually not video editing, but it would be a nice bonus.

But strange thing happend. As I`m giving attention to my video editing tries with Magix after more than a year, I tried to download new "TRIAL Movie Studio 2023 Platinum". I installed it on the brand new laptop, turned proxy files on and wonder how smooth it all was.

Than I tried to install the same Movie Studio to my original, one and a half year OLD laptop "Lenovo ThinkPad T14 Gen1 Ryzen 7 Pro 4750U with Radeon graphics, 16GB RAM" and I got the same smooth Movie Studio behaviour as on the brand new laptop.

The only problem on both laptops was with 2,7k 120fps video so far, for which Movie Studio refused to create proxy file. I`ll open a new question on the forum for this issue.

PS: I did try to import only four few tens seconds long testing videos (FHD 30 fps, 4k 30fps, 4k 60 fps and 2,7k 120fps) into Movie Studio so far. So even if it seems smooth now, it could go worse after I import around 60GB of 4k 60fps videos into it :)

Thank you for you patience with me :)

TF