Too long a video clip crashes MEP - no message why

pmikep wrote on 10/27/2015, 8:20 PM

So, I imported an 8GB TV clip into MEP Plus 2016. The clip was about 8 hours long. I had forgotten that MEP can only make a project up to 6.5 hours long. (IIRC from the User's Guide.) MEP imported it okay, created the frame table, and then crashed just after it created the .H0 file. No message about the clip being too long.

It would be helpful if, when the program crashes, it would give a messge saying that the clip was too long.

Started with MEP 11, then 17, then MX, then MEP 2013, 2015, then 2016. Changed to the fast competitor after that, which worked fine with my non-Intel hardware. Then bought a used Dell with an Intel GPU, just to play with MEP again. Installed MEP 2020 Plus in March 2020, even tho I don't like losing patches if I have to reinstall after a year.

Testing on a Dell Vostro, <s>i3-8100</s> updated to i5-9400 w/ UHD 630, 16 GB 2400 DDR4 (CL15), Win10 Home, heavily NTLite'd. Now with GTX-1650 Super OC'd. Added a WD Blue M.2 for OS (PCIe 3), Apps, Temps and Video-In. 2 Monitors. A WD Blue SSD for outputs. (SATA III.)

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johnebaker wrote on 10/31/2015, 2:05 PM

Hi

. . . . The clip was about 8 hours long. I had forgotten that MEP can only make a project up to 6.5 hours long . . . .

The maximum length of video I can import into MEP 2016 is 7hrs 54 mins and no crashing. 

Do you actually need the whole 8+ hrs of video or are you editing down ?

If you are going to edit it down, try using a different workflow ie from the media pool view the video in the Preview screen and set  In / Out points at for the sections you want and add these to the timeline - see the p 34 in the manual for more information.

HTH

John EB

 

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pmikep wrote on 11/1/2015, 2:44 AM

Hi John:

I fact checked myself. I was a bit wrong. On p. 56 of the MEP 2016 User Guide, it says that the max length of a movie is 6 hours. I realize that that is not the same as the maximum length for an import. I am curious where you found the 7 hr, 54 min spec for an import?

As it turns out, my import was 7 hours, 29 minutes. I didn't need it that long - I ended up with a TV import that long because 1) Magix doesn't support my USB analog/digital TV dongle (whereas I read that Cyberlink's PowerDirector 14 does) and 2) even if it did support my USB dongle, I don't see a way to set a max time to record. (IIRC, old MEP 11 and 17 had a scheduler for video recording.) So I had to start the recording in the TV program software itself and then I went to bed.

I was going to use MEP the next morning to simply trim the too long video in the timeline. (Which caused MEP to crash.) I didn't try doing the trim first in the Preview Monitor before dragging the trim into the time line. Let me try that now.

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Okay, it turns out that I can click the "Play" button on the flyout at the file and that will play the long video in the Preview monitor. From there I can trim it and import the trimmed video into the time line without crashing. Cool.
However, I cannot click the "Trim" marker button on the file flyout and get the long video to show in the Preview monitor. It doesn't matter since I can achieve what I want from the Play button. But I point out the inconsistency anyway.

So thanks for the reminder about trimming in the Preview monitor. It's interesting how serialized the work flow can be.

Hi

. . . . The clip was about 8 hours long. I had forgotten that MEP can only make a project up to 6.5 hours long . . . .

The maximum length of video I can import into MEP 2016 is 7hrs 54 mins and no crashing. 

Do you actually need the whole 8+ hrs of video or are you editing down ?

If you are going to edit it down, try using a different workflow ie from the media pool view the video in the Preview screen and set  In / Out points at for the sections you want and add these to the timeline - see the p 34 in the manual for more information.

HTH

John EB

 

 

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Started with MEP 11, then 17, then MX, then MEP 2013, 2015, then 2016. Changed to the fast competitor after that, which worked fine with my non-Intel hardware. Then bought a used Dell with an Intel GPU, just to play with MEP again. Installed MEP 2020 Plus in March 2020, even tho I don't like losing patches if I have to reinstall after a year.

Testing on a Dell Vostro, <s>i3-8100</s> updated to i5-9400 w/ UHD 630, 16 GB 2400 DDR4 (CL15), Win10 Home, heavily NTLite'd. Now with GTX-1650 Super OC'd. Added a WD Blue M.2 for OS (PCIe 3), Apps, Temps and Video-In. 2 Monitors. A WD Blue SSD for outputs. (SATA III.)

johnebaker wrote on 11/1/2015, 3:59 AM

Hi

. . . . I am curious where you found the 7 hr, 54 min spec for an import? . . . .

Practical trial - this was the maximum length of timeline I could get and then imported a chopped to length security camera video with no problem.

John EB

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VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.