Thanks for your reply rraud. So I guess that's just a feature of the "Pro" version.

I was talking about the scaling for reading the WAV (or whatever) file being edited.The numbers on the LH side of the "grid" (not the meters). I know you can zoom in on the waveform - but a normal view (zoomed out) of a normalised file shows weird scaling like -.7db, -3.2db etc. I just think it's weird, and nothing else that I've ever used displays like this.

John B

'Level ruler' maybe, I've changed my display, so I don't see it here. Can you post a screenshot? I'm sure it can be hidden or changed if that's your desire. If you can find a pre owned version SF Pro 9 or 10, that has the statistics utility along with other niceties. I think ownership is transferable (at least it was with SCS). My experience indicates, these versions run w/o issue in Win 10 as long as it's installed to the x86 program files.

Here's what it looks like. Sound Forge on the left - Audition on the right.

https://snag.gy/Z64Hsh.jpg

See how SF uses -.7db, -3.2db instead of "round" numbers?

Yeah, that's the 'Level Ruler' (at least that's what Sonic Foundry and SCS called it). Though I do not see any sign of it or any parameter settings on the version I have (12.0.0.155 DP3) which may be a beta test version. In any case, I'm not sure why they used that scale. In SF Pro 11 and older versions; Inf., -6, -12, -2.5dB zoomed full out and the resolution increases with the zoom ratio. I prefer it hidden to have a little extra TL width. The meters OTOH, are of utmost importance.

Thanks rraud - at least I know what to call it now. ;-)

I've sent a request to cust support, to see if we can fix this.

Hello John & rraud,

Thank you very much for your feedback.

For your first question, there are already some plans for statistics. It will come in a later version, maybe with an update or patch. The peak left and peak right values are for the current edit cursor position. There is a scan time that you can edit in preferences. The value is calculated from this scan time around the edit cursor. You can also change the information that is shown in these fields with a right click to field, then you can choose what you want to see in these fields in the opened popup.

The Level Ruler will also be reworked and it will get a more useful scale.

🙂

Best regards
Tom

Hi Tom,

Thanks a lot for your reply - it's good to know that someone is reading these posts ;-)

there are already some plans for statistics. It will come in a later version, maybe with an update or patch

That would be really good - thanks.

The peak left and peak right values are for the current edit cursor position. There is a scan time that you can edit in preferences. The value is calculated from this scan time around the edit cursor.

OK, I'll have a look at this - maybe I can set the a really long time, to get a peak value for an entire song. ;-)

You can also change the information that is shown in these fields with a right click to field, then you can choose what you want to see in these fields in the opened popup.

I knew this - form the manual. There are a few interesting ones to pick. Of course - this is redundant if you use the time display manager ;-)

Another good feature, would be if we could make any of the "manager modules" floating, or docked wherever we want - so we can see a few of them at once. Mind you - I got the meters (visualisation) to dock seperately from the rest of the manager(s), so maybe this actually is possible.

The Level Ruler will also be reworked and it will get a more useful scale.

That would be really good! ;-)

I'll keep my eyes open - here I guess. Where else can I get news about updates etc?

rgds,

John B

Hello John,

Another good feature, would be if we could make any of the "manager modules" floating, or docked wherever we want - so we can see a few of them at once. Mind you - I got the meters (visualisation) to dock seperately from the rest of the manager(s), so maybe this actually is possible.

It is possible :-) you can go with the mouse over the left corner from the titelbar of the docked window, then the mouse will change to another mouse cursor, that shows you, that you can now undock the window. Now you can drag the complete Window with all its tabs. To dock only a tabed window you can undock also every window separatly, you just drag the tab from that window what you want to move.

I have here a quick screen record to show how it works. Its just to demonstrate, with a small screen, so the positions makes no sence but it shows how it works.

I hope that helps you.

The Level Ruler will also be reworked and it will get a more useful scale.

I learned that the level ruler scale changes as you change the window size that contains the waveform being edited. (still the same in the patch)

This is weird behaviour isn't it? If your not zooming, why would this change according to the window size? Shouldn't it just stay the same (ie -1db, -3db, -6db, -9db etc), and just let the window (and waveform) get bigger or smaller?   

Hello jbraner,

you are absolutely right, as i said:

The Level Ruler will also be reworked and it will get a more useful scale.

It will come in a later update.

Thanks

Tom