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Lotuz wrote on 4/2/2019, 4:55 AM

Unfortunately no replies. Could someone try this in SF AS 13?

 

It seems to me the Bitmachine, the Delay and the Filter plugin (of the Magix Plugins) are locked to 120 BPM. But this might just happen on my Windows 7 32 bit computer. I'll also try on another computer later.

 

For example I have a wav file with a one bar (4 beats) drum loop of 90 BPM.

When I load the Delay plugin and set the Sync knob to 1/8 for example, the delay doesn't sound on each 1/8th note of a 90 BPM loop, but on each 1/8th note of a 120 BPM loop, so slightly too fast.

In Status Format/Edit Tempo the Tempo In Beats Per Minute indeed is set to 120 (by default I guess), so after correcting the Selection Length In Beats to 4, the Tempo In Beats Per Minute shows 90.

When I check this change with the elastique Timestretch plugin, the Original Tempo indeed shows 90.

But when I load the Delay plugin again and set the Sync knob to 1/8, the delay still doesn't sound on each 1/8th note of a 90 BPM loop, but on each 1/8th note of a 120 BPM loop, so slightly too fast.

 

For even more obvious differences you could try a loop with a much lower BPM than 90.

 

Thanks in advance!

Lotuz wrote on 4/3/2019, 2:16 PM

So here's my test with a 70 BPM drum loop vs a 120 BPM drum loop.

The 1/8 delay on the 120 drum loop sounds as expected (only a minor drift).

The 1/8 delay on the 70 BPM drum loop on the other hand is way off. It doesn't sound bad, quite rhythmical I must say, but it's definitely not 1/8.

Now this is on another computer (Windows 10 64 bit). I'd like to know if anyone else experiences the same thing. I think it's a bug, but it might just be me doing something wrong.

jko wrote on 4/16/2019, 1:52 AM

Hi! Please try Options=>Status Format=>Edit Tempo. Hope that helps

Lotuz wrote on 4/16/2019, 2:05 AM

Thanks for trying to help. That I've already tried:

In Status Format/Edit Tempo the Tempo In Beats Per Minute indeed is set to 120 (by default I guess), so after correcting the Selection Length In Beats to 4, the Tempo In Beats Per Minute shows 90.

The same thing happens when I use the eFX Stereo Delay from the EssentialFX Suite, so there must be a problem with either SFAS13 or the Magix plugins. Magix is looking into this, but I'll also try a plugin from another developer.

Lotuz wrote on 4/20/2019, 2:26 PM

Magix is looking into this, but I'll also try a plugin from another developer.

 

So I did. Syncing the free T-Rex Delay Mini Advanced plugin* also seems impossible. After editing the tempo of SFAS13 the plugin's GUI shows 120 BPM instead of the edited tempo. When Sync to Host is switched off, then it's possible to manually change the plugin's tempo to the correct BPM. When switching Sync to Host on and off, then it's all the more obvious that the sync tempo is incorrect. Now what puzzles me if why the elastique Timestretch plugin does sync to the tempo set in SFAS13 and other plugins don't.

* http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?plugin=T-Rex_Delay_Mini_Advanced&id=2343