See only black screen on Movie Studio 18 while importing HEVC file

Tomas-SVK wrote on 8/6/2021, 3:24 PM

See only black preview screen on Movie Studio 18 while importing HEVC file.

It was possible to import the same video in Movie studio 16 but have problems (only audio works) in 18.

Any help?

Thank you

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johnebaker wrote on 8/6/2021, 4:06 PM

@Tomas-SVK

Hi and welcome to the forum.

I have closed your other post in the Other products section to avoid splitting of replies.

We need more information:

  1. Computer specification - see this topic for what is required and please quote your processor and graphics card/chipset make/model in full.
     
  2. What is the source of the HEVC file eg Mobile/Smart phone, GoPro camera etc?
     
  3. A MediaInfo analysis of one of the HEVC files would also help, see this tutorial on how to setup and analyse a video file with MediaInfo and copy the data for posting in your reply.

John EB
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Tomas-SVK wrote on 8/6/2021, 4:17 PM

Hi, tank you for the respond.

When I click on video (play button) it start to preview, but only black screen with audio. I tried proxy, still black. Works fine in Movie studio 16 Platinum.

1. Win10,64bit, latest updates, GeForce GTX 750 2GB, i5-3570K, 12GB RAM

Movie studio 18 Platinum 18.1.0.24(UDP3)

2. Gopro 9

3. MediaInfo 

General
Complete name                  : ...\GX010299.MP4
Format                         : MPEG-4
Format profile                 : Base Media / Version 1
Codec ID                       : mp41
File size                      : 782 MiB
Duration                       : 1mn 5s
Overall bit rate               : 100 Mbps
Encoded date                   : UTC 2021-01-23 10:11:25
Tagged date                    : UTC 2021-01-23 10:11:25

Video
ID                             : 1
Format                         : HEVC
Format/Info                    : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                 : Main@L6.0
Codec ID                       : hvc1
Codec ID/Info                  : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration                       : 1mn 5s
Bit rate                       : 99.9 Mbps
Width                          : 2 704 pixels
Height                         : 1 520 pixels
Display aspect ratio           : 16:9
Frame rate mode                : Constant
Frame rate                     : 59.940 fps
Color space                    : YUV
Chroma subsampling             : 4:2:0
Bit depth                      : 8 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)             : 0.405
Stream size                    : 780 MiB (100%)
Title                          : GoPro H.265
Language                       : English
Encoded date                   : UTC 2021-01-23 10:11:25
Tagged date                    : UTC 2021-01-23 10:11:25
Color primaries                : BT.709
Transfer characteristics       : BT.709
Matrix coefficients            : BT.709
Color range                    : Full

Audio
ID                             : 2
Format                         : AAC
Format/Info                    : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                 : LC
Codec ID                       : 40
Duration                       : 1mn 5s
Bit rate mode                  : Constant
Bit rate                       : 192 Kbps
Nominal bit rate               : 48.0 Kbps
Channel(s)                     : 2 channels
Channel positions              : Front: L R
Sampling rate                  : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode               : Lossy
Stream size                    : 1.48 MiB (0%)
Title                          : GoPro AAC  
Language                       : English
Encoded date                   : UTC 2021-01-23 10:11:25
Tagged date                    : UTC 2021-01-23 10:11:25

Other #1
ID                             : 3
Type                           : Time code
Format                         : QuickTime TC
Duration                       : 1mn 5s
Time code of first frame       : 10:21:10:00
Time code, striped             : Yes
Title                          : GoPro TCD  
Language                       : English
Encoded date                   : UTC 2021-01-23 10:11:25
Tagged date                    : UTC 2021-01-23 10:11:25
Bit rate mode                  : CBR

Other #2
Type                           : meta
Duration                       : 1mn 5s
Duration_LastFrame             : -518
Bit rate mode                  : VBR

Other #3
Type                           : meta
mdhd_Duration                  : 65515
Bit rate mode                  : VBR

 

johnebaker wrote on 8/6/2021, 4:43 PM

@Tomas-SVK

Hi

Thanks for the quick reply.

The computer specification is the absolute minimum for running Movie Studio 18 (MMS 18) this and the Go Pro video format gives rise to two major problems:

  1. the processors integrated graphics - HD4000, and the GTX 750 are not capable of handling HEVC video for decoding or encoding.

    In the Program settings, Import/Export tab try turning off (uncheck) the 2 hardware acceleration options if they are on (checked).
     
  2. If the above works, the video resolution of 2.7K with a bitrate of 100 Mbps from the GoPro, is putting a high load on the processor which means the program will be slow responding - HEVC requires a lot of processor power to decode and play.

The best solution for working with this computer specification and MMS 18 is to convert the existing video clips to MP4, h.264 encoding with 1920 x 1080 resolution using a converter such as Handbrake, and, for future video recordings, use the same encoding and resolution settings and Constant framerate in the GoPro 9 if it supports them.

HTH

John EB

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Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

Tomas-SVK wrote on 8/7/2021, 2:20 AM

Yes, it helped.

it's slow, but at least it works :)

thank you

Tomas-SVK wrote on 8/7/2021, 2:28 AM

is there any link with recommended graphics card that can support encoding HEVC?

CubeAce wrote on 8/7/2021, 2:44 AM

@Tomas-SVK

Hi Thomas.

When John refers to your computer only just barely making the minimum requirements to run he is referring to both the Intel GPU as well as the nvidia card.

I have just exported a project to HEVC to show you how much each part of my system is being used to render the project.

You can see the workload is pretty evenly shared among the various components using both an Intel chip that has an HD 630 GPU and an nvidia 1650 Super 4GB graphics card. It was the cheapest card I could find that I felt could meet the current requirements.

You can also see the Intel GPU is working very hard.

Ray.

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johnebaker wrote on 8/7/2021, 3:58 AM

@Tomas-SVK

Hi

. . . . is there any link with recommended graphics card that can support encoding HEVC? . . . .

IMHO a new computer based on an Intel processor - 6 to 8 cores is sufficient, with a UHD 630, or equivalent Iris Graphics, integrated GPU is required:

Future proofing for new capabilities that may be introduced in MMS18/Movie Edit Pro, some are already in Video Pro X 13, the addition of either:

  1. a NVIDIA Geforce GTX 1050 or better, preferably one of the RTX series graphics card.

    or
     
  2. an AMD Radeon RX470 or better graphics card.

See the specification of my computer in my signature below.

HTH

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

CubeAce wrote on 8/7/2021, 7:39 AM

@Tomas-SVK @johnebaker

Just a few more points I'd like to mention. Do look at not just specs of nvidia cards but the prices of some of them. I have found cheaper prices on some newer cards with better specs than some of the older cards. Graphics card prices at present still seem to be over priced and sometimes a ready built machine at present can be a cost saving over buying separate items. When I looked for graphics cards I could not find a new 1050 card for sale. Also going build your own would mean a new motherboard and possibly ram as well as an up-rated power supply and upgraded CPU cooler.

An nvidia card on its own at this point would not make an awful lot of difference. Better a new motherboard and CPU along the lines of Johns suggestions to start with would help much more.

Ray.

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Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 566.36 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

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