rolling glow and enlarge effect in Magix?

Jonathan-Slobodzian wrote on 10/22/2022, 4:59 PM

I just upgraded from VEGAS Movie Studio Platinum 14 to Movie Studio 2023 Platinum. In VEGAS movie studio there was a text effect called "Rolling Glow and Enlarge". I do not see that effect in the latest version. Is this available in 2023 Platinum? Can it be migrated from the previous tool? Can it be purchased?

I am trying to complete a video in the newer tool and I want to use that effect for uniformity with an earlier video made with the previous tool

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Former user wrote on 10/22/2022, 8:04 PM

@Jonathan-Slobodzian Hi, unfortunately you've been deceived by Magix,

Magix Movie Studio 2023 is not an upgrade for Vegas Movie Studio 14, they're totally different programs & there is no migration or interaction between the two,

Vegas Edit is the Upgrade from Movie Studio 14,

Ask on the Vegas forum for more, https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/vegas-pro-forum/

ericlnz wrote on 10/23/2022, 3:08 AM

@Jonathan-Slobodzian I'm pretty certain that "Rolling Glow and Enlarge" wasn't a native Vegas Movie Studio FX. It probably came from a third party FX package such as New Blue, Boris etc.

CubeAce wrote on 10/23/2022, 3:29 AM

@ericlnz @Jonathan-Slobodzian @Former user

Hi Eric.

No, it's in my copy of MS 16.

Ray.

 

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ericlnz wrote on 10/23/2022, 3:40 AM

Thanks @CubeAce. I was looking in FX but on re-reading the post I see text is mentioned. My error.

So next question - what does MEP/MS2023 have that is similar that could help Jonathon?

 

johnebaker wrote on 10/23/2022, 4:11 AM

@Jonathan-Slobodzian, @ericlnz

Hi

. . . . what does MEP/MS2023 have that is similar that could help Jonathon . . . .

The closest effect is the X3D Animation titles, however in MS 2023 the X3D editor does not open when you add a title to the timeline and you can only change the text as seen in the dialog below.

This X3D editor does work in VPX 14.

There are 3rd party plugins available that may do what is required, eg NewBlue Titler Pro, Bluff Titler, however these are expensive.

Personally I use Blender to create title effects, lower thirds etc.

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CubeAce wrote on 10/23/2022, 5:35 AM

@Jonathan-Slobodzian @ericlnz @johnebaker @Former user

I think it may be possible to get Vegas 14 to run on Windows 10 and 11 so you should be able to run both on the same machine. Then it would be possible to make the text wanted in MS 14 and export as a video file and then use Chroma Key to blend into your MS 2023 project.

Not ideal I know but a workaround.

Ray.

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browj2 wrote on 10/23/2022, 10:04 AM

@Jonathan-Slobodzian

Hi,

As indicated by @CubeAce, create the title in Vegas MS on top of a colour swatch that is not close to any colours used in the title. I used Red background (colour jpg) and the default colours for the title. Render to mp4, import to MS2023, chromakey Color and select the red background. The track disposition is as shown.

I have a couple of other video editors that I keep around because of certain effects or resources (music, transitions, etc.) that I may want to use from time to time. I do up the effect in the other editor, render, import to Magix MS/VPX.

Vegas MS/Pro is not one that I find very useful. They are about the poorest on the market in the way of content effects and content.

I disagree with @Former user except in that you cannot import everything - effects - from Vegas MS into Magix MS. You can open Vegas MS into Magix MS but it only imports the timeline (events only). Other than that, you have a tremendous "upgrade" as you get more features, effects, templates than Vegas MS or Pro has or ever had. And, you get multiple timelines, just a dream for many Vegas Pro users. There is much, much more.

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ericlnz wrote on 10/23/2022, 10:31 PM

@Jonathan-Slobodzian As an alternative to rendering your titles from VMS16 with a coloured background which then has to be removed with chromakey it would be best to render them with an alpha channel which gives you transparency. In VMS16 use Image Sequence - png, or QT7 - png 32 bit. You could also use avi uncompressed but it creates large files. QT7 is possibly your best choice as I don't know how MS2023 handles Image Sequence.

If you decide to go this route and need help exporting from VMS16 post on the Vegas forum for assistance. There's a link in Gid's earlier post.

Jonathan-Slobodzian wrote on 10/23/2022, 10:50 PM

Oh cool..I think the “build it in the old with chroma, and export it to the new” idea will solve my problem. Will give it a try!

Thanks for the tips!

johnebaker wrote on 10/24/2022, 3:26 AM

@Jonathan-Slobodzian, @ericlnz

Hi

. . . . use Image Sequence - png, or QT7 - png 32 bit.  . . . .

In order to import video in the PNG or QT7 formats you will need to have Quicktime Alternative installed. AVI with Alpha channel should import directly.

Image sequence may import, animated GIF images do.

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