Problem in asociated peak files in Audio Cleaning Lab version 3

piotrkast wrote on 1/23/2021, 4:52 AM

When I loaded new audio file into Audio Cleaning Lab version 3 program creates associated peak file, and its OK. But when I loaded later changed file whith this same name as earler when program creates associated to the earlier file peak file - program uses old peek file.In meantime I changed this file in another DAW editor (in this case changed all in this file - sometimes I chaned its played time). Now when program loaded old peek file, when I add some time with silence of the begining file, program trimm end of file (saved only lenght of file saved in old peak file). To avoid this I must(!) before loading each file manually(!) cleared all program cache. When I do this, program on the next load file which I mention earlier into this DAW editor, program again recreates from scratch correct associated peak file. I suggest, when I closed project file, program delete also associated peak files which are used by audio file used in this project.

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emmrecs wrote on 1/23/2021, 5:49 AM

@piotrkast

Welcome to the Magix user to user forums.

The problem you are seeing here is solely because you are naming a "new" file with the name of an "old" one whose audio has been deleted. When you delete that first audio file, if you do not also delete its associated peak file but then open a new file with the same name as the old one, ACL will automatically open the peak file whose name matches. The simple reason for this is that audio and peak files are intended to be "paired". ACL has no means by which it can determine that this file "xxxx.wav" is a new version and that the existing "xxxx." peak file actually belongs to a different audio file.

To avoid this problem you do not need to clear the program cache but simply give your new file a different name! Even a very simple change, like making "xxxx.wav" become "xxxx1.wav" will completely avoid the problem! You can later delete "xxxx.wav" if you don't need it any longer; the associated peak file can also be deleted at this time but since these files are really very small, they can be left on your computer unless you are very short of hard drive space.

Speaking personally, I would not like to see any part of the program automatically deleting peak files, though there might be an argument for what I see in another DAW I use, where there is a user-selectable option to not save those peak files so they are recreated every time the file is opened, with some consequential additional time being taken before the file is "ready to play". Although I have that option available I choose to not use it.

Jeff
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piotrkast wrote on 1/24/2021, 2:01 AM

I restoring old music. And for this job is quite anoying rename each file after each operation. I tried this aproach in the begining of history with restoration old music I tried restored oryginal audio quality which all heared from radio in years 80'..Doing this job one good program is not good enough. I must use several DAWs and plugins doing this (you do one operation in one DAW editor, saved result and switch to another DAW i repeat again this procedure).

Restore old files to good quality to require of 20 (or more steps). If I changed name after each operation I quickly lost track in which step of this procedure I'm now.

I'll take another approach. In Access 2007 I made database which describe each step in this process. And in this database put column in which I can mark number of file from series where I interrupt restoring procedure.

If You don't want to change behaviour of your program - I live with that. But for me this is quite annoying.

P.S. If you interested how I restored files in another way, I may send you sample procedures how I do it.

johnebaker wrote on 1/24/2021, 8:44 AM

@piotrkast

. . . . If You don't want to change behaviour of your program - I live with that. But for me this is quite annoying. . . . .

This is a user to user forum, so we cannot change the software.

As you are familiar with the workflow, assuming the sequence of cleaning is the same for every recording, adding the Step number to the saved file name to tell you where you are in the sequence and/or create separate folders for each step to save the output to, should not be difficult or confusing. It also avoids the necessity to restart the whole sequence if one step messes up or you lose the current working file.

. . . . Restore old files to good quality to require of 20 (or more steps) . . . .

I assume you are working with an uncompressed audio format?

John EB
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