Picture In Picture after zooming/cropping one video - Edit Pro Plus

dan65 wrote on 1/22/2018, 5:32 AM

Hi, I'm using Edit Pro Plus on Windows 10 and I'm having trouble working out how to do a picture in picture when the smaller picture needs to be cropped.
In a previous project I was able to use the Effects > Camera Zoom Shot to shrink one video channel to the top right on top of the other video that was full screen.
In this project I would like to do picture in picture again but the small video needs to cropped. The video to be cropped was done on a drone so is too far away so I would like to use the software to zoom.
I have used time markers to follow the subject but this seems to be making the video area large instead of allowing this to be in the small section of the screen.

Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

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browj2 wrote on 1/22/2018, 8:50 AM

Hi Dan,

Under Effects, use Section to crop the video, then under Size/Position, adjust zoom and drag or use the position counters to position overlay. If you want to animate the overlay, use keyframes.

John CB

Ben-Hansen wrote on 7/8/2018, 7:43 AM

I'm trying a similar thing using the latest version (17 0 1 128 I believe, I just bought it today after using version 14 for years) in Windows 10. John CB's suggestion was exactly how I used to do it in v14, but it doesn't work the same in v17.

One problem is that cropping using Section (with Free proportions) now causes the video to blur for some reason.

A second problem is that, in v17, when I drag the cropped section using Size/Position it doesn't actually repostion the cropped section to wherever I want on the screen. Instead, Section creates a "window" and, while Size/Position does allow me to drag the cropped clip, as I drag the section away from its original postion the only part of it I can see is the part which still overlaps that original window.

For example, say I have a 1920x1080 frame and I Section a 400x400 square in the upper-left which I want to reposition (as an overlay for some master image) in the bottom-left. First, when I select that 400x400 upper-left section (with Free proportions selected) the entire image/frame becomes blurry. Then, while the dashed box indicator moves as it should as I try to drag the cropped section down towards its desired position at the bottom, the cropped clip cannot be seen outside the original 400x400 upper-left box. Once I drag the 400x400 Section below the 400 mark it disappears completely and may as well not exist at all. It is as if Section has created a window in the upper-left through which I can see the cropped clip re-positioning as I drag it, but I cannot see the parts of the cropped clip which I have moved outside (ie below or to the right) of that window.

browj2 wrote on 7/8/2018, 8:09 AM

Hi Ben,

First, update to the latest patch, which is 17.0.3.184.

What is the resolution of the original video clip? Remember, that the Section that you are creating if first going to increase in size to full screen height as soon as you click on Size/Position. You then have to zoom out to get the cropped clip (section window) smaller, then you position it.

After you have updated, try again, and let us know the results.

John CB

Ben-Hansen wrote on 7/9/2018, 5:59 PM

Thanks so much for the quick response John, very appreciated.

I failed to mention I actually had upgraded to 17.0.3.184 as soon as I was prompted upon starting MEP for the first time, so the above-mentioned issue was occurring even having completed that update and restarted MEP, BUT after restarting the PC itself the issue was resolved. I've just spent the morning testing that technique and have found it works fine now.

BUT I have stumbled across another picture-in-picture issue. If I mirror the overlay using Rotation/Mirror the mirrored image plays correctly in the MEP monitor window, but when I export the movie (uncompressed for what it's worth) the overlay is no longer mirrored. What makes this especially strange is that if the main image is also mirrored it exports the main image mirrored but the overlay unmirrored. Does this sound like anything you've come across?

browj2 wrote on 7/9/2018, 10:16 PM

Hi,

No. Can you give us the exact steps, some screen shots and the exact export format that you used. I tried mp4. No problem.

John CB

johnebaker wrote on 7/10/2018, 4:24 AM

@Ben-Hansen

. . . . If I mirror the overlay using Rotation/Mirror the mirrored image plays correctly in the MEP monitor window, but when I export the movie (uncompressed for what it's worth) the overlay is no longer mirrored. . . . .

There would appear to be a bug in the Rotation/Mirror effect, Mirror buttons - I cannot get mirrored clip rendered in the export.

Use the vertical Rotation option and set as shown below to mirror this clip/image

this exports OK on my system.

HTH

John EB

Ben-Hansen wrote on 7/10/2018, 6:00 AM

Big thanks both of you guys for getting back to me so quickly again, I really appreciate that people like you have our backs around here, and special thanks to John EB for going to the trouble of replicating the problem on your own system and finding a workaround. I'll give it a crack tomorrow.

Ben-Hansen wrote on 7/13/2018, 5:35 AM

Thanks again John EB, that trick does the trick!