Outboard Photo edits not updating

hdrechsel18 wrote on 7/22/2024, 10:06 AM

I looked to find similar questions posted. Did not find (exactly), so I apologize if I'm going over what has already been addressed.

Sometimes I find that a photo I have added to my timeline needs additional editing. I use Paintshop Pro for my photo editing. So I'll remove the photo from the time line, open it in PS, make my edits and save. In Movie Studio: I'll back out of that file, and go back in (thinking I'm updating it), but when I pull in the photo it is not the updated photo no matter how many times I back in and out. The only way I can get the updated photo is by renaming it (ie: saving DIN001 to DIN001A) in which case the updated photo appears in the folder and I am able to pull into my project. Not a game killer, but somewhat annoying. I don't remember ever having this issue with MEP. Just wondering if anyone else has noticed this, and/or has a simple solution that I'm obviously missing.

Thanks in advance, Harry D.

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Gid wrote on 7/22/2024, 10:41 AM

@hdrechsel18 When you drag your altered photo back onto the timeline try - Edit - Empty undo and cache memory.

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hdrechsel18 wrote on 7/22/2024, 10:49 AM

Thanks - I'll try that. Actually never used that function before (still learning).

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CubeAce wrote on 7/22/2024, 10:51 AM

@hdrechsel18

Hi Harry.

I don't do it that way but just open the file in it's folder and edit and save it there making sure the file name has not changed. (To a copy or course and not the original file).

When I open the project it has changed. The only times that will not happen is if you are using proxy files or pre-rendering the timeline. Then you get the old view.

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Gid wrote on 7/22/2024, 11:26 AM

@CubeAce Not sure if I'm understanding you, no proxies or prerending.

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hdrechsel18 wrote on 7/22/2024, 11:31 AM

Thanks Ray

I shoot in RAW. When working on my project's material I'll do some "simple" HDR processing and save as a JPEG in my project folder. I'll then go back and edit them (however needed) and resize the JPEG to fit my movie. Some folks have said this is unnecessary as Movie Studio will automatically resize it..but I figure it's less strain on the system (????). So my "original" files (RAW) are never touched. I only use proxy files when working with videos.

You're right though - if I close down MS, once I reopen the edited picture files are usually there. Thanks for the tips - it all helps.

Harry D

johnebaker wrote on 7/22/2024, 11:50 AM

@hdrechsel18

Hi

. . . . saving DIN001 to DIN001A . . .

This should not be necessary, after saving the image overwriting the original, clear the cache, as @Gid has commented, and then move the timeline cursor, the preview image should update.

However, there is a small bug - the icons on the image object do not change, nor the icon in the Media pane, When the project is saved, the program closed and restarted and project reloaded these icons do get updated.

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CubeAce wrote on 7/22/2024, 12:20 PM

@Gid

Hi Gid.

I don't even have a video editor open when I change a still image. If you have ever used a pre-render on the timeline (My guess is you haven't ever needed to) then the changes are not shown as what you are seeing is the playback of a temp proxy file (or something similar, I've never really looked into it but if not a proxy file something similar).

@hdrechsel18

Hi Harry.

I shoot in RAW.

I do similar, either with raw or tiff files and adjust and export to a jpg or png file.

I suppose it depends on how many megapixels your camera has but on average I just trim the images to the ratio used in the project. The larger the file the more detailed the images tend to be but my largest files are only 20MP max and seldom more than 12MBs. Png files for when I want to shape an image with transparent background with a beveled edge.

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browj2 wrote on 7/22/2024, 12:27 PM

@hdrechsel18

Hi,

You can add PaintShop Pro to MMS as the external image editor.

Then right-click on an image,

and it will open the image in PaintShop Pro straight from the timeline. Upon exiting PaintShop, it will ask if you want to save, yes (make sure to have copy original on in PSP), and the image will be updated in MMS on the timeline after clearing the cache.

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hdrechsel18 wrote on 7/22/2024, 1:43 PM

Thanks John - I'll certainly look into that. Figured you could do it, just wasn't sure how.

Harry D.