@MME007

Hi

. . . . . Video Pro X v15.05.213. . . . I don't have any sound on any of my .m2TS nor .m2v videos . . . . program was reinstalled about a year ago . . . . I didn't use this program since I reinstalled it . . .  .mp3 also don't work . . . .

This suggest that the issue was caused by the new Windows 10 install.

Assuming that the .mts and .m2v video files audio is Dolby Surround Sound then, due to licensing issues with Dolby which have affected many other video editors as well,

VPX 9 on re-install would no longer have the capability to decode surround sound, older version of VPX and Movie Edit Pro were affected by the licensing issues for Surround sound.

The current version of VPX can decode surround sound, however support for exporting/encoding surround sound.is not available.

The mp3 issue is most likely due to the re-install of Windows 10 did not include Windows Media Player 12 which is necessary for mp3 support - to install WMP -

• Open Windows Settings.
• Select Apps.
• In the Apps & features. pane select the Programs and features link top right of pane.
• Select Turn windows features on or off
• Scroll down to the Media features section and click the + to expand it
• Select Windows Media Player
• Select OK and install WMP.

HTH

John EB
Forum Moderator

Thanks John,

WMP was already active, so no prgress on MP3.

Maybe a confusion on my post: I don't have any sound in Video X PRO as I import my videos. I didn't try any export...

The only exception is when I import an audio file under the .wav format, recorded on Tascam DR40 recorder. In that case all looks fine.

Other ideas?

Regards,

Marc

@MME007

Hi Marc

. . . . Maybe a confusion on my post: I don't have any sound in Video X PRO as I import my videos. I didn't try any export.. . . .

No confusion on your part or mine - please read through my post again the majority of which relates to de-coding which occurs on import.

The mention of encoding, which occurs when exporting, is an extra comment to clarify the position if you were also wanting to export as Dolby Surround Sound.

The MP3 export looks like it is a bug.

HTH

John EB

@MME007 @johnebaker

Hi.

MP3 export is a bug and I reported it a long time ago. It has nothing to do with Windows updates or missing programs within Windows as MP3 exporting is still functioning in VPX 11.

Ray.

Thanks for your comments,

In practice should I install another version of VPX? How should I do that? MVP is installed, what else should I do?

Regards,

Marc

@MME007

Hi Marc.

I have no idea. Sorry.

I have Movie Edit Pro 2022 which seems to share the same bugs as VPX 13 but my copy of VPX 11 Still allows for me to export projects in formats MEP doesn't like MP3 or QuickTime Pro res mov. which I can watch in higher quality on one of my TVs.

Ray.

I don't think we need to be discussing exporting.

@MME007 If time is of the essence but you don't want to rush into doing something premature purchase-wise, there may be ways of losslessly converting your movie clips to a more compatible audio codec. If you could post a smallish file (up to 2gb) onto Google Drive for us to have a "look" at that would help a lot. Make sure you set the Google Drive link to "Anybody with the link".

@MME007

Also, could you give us a Mediainfo readout of one of your problem videos. That will reveal the audio codec used.

@AAProds

Hi Al.

I can hear sound on video files with mpeg layer 2 audio in MEP 2022. Not sure how to produce files using a layer 3 to test.

Ray.

Post edited. My point is there may be a correlation between the MP3 import issue and the audio in the M2TS files.

@AAProds

Hi Al.

Don't M2TS files use MPEG-2?

There are no problems importing mp3 files to play within MEP 2022 (which Marc is complaining about) unless there is a separate issue with VPX 13 or he is referring to exporting.

Ray.

Thanks for your useful comments. I’ll answer your requests as I’ll be at home this evening. I’ll also double check mp3 with other filles than the one I took. My main concern is about m2ts and m2v files.

Thanks

Marc

Thanks all,

I further checked mp3 with other files and it works. So mp3 is not a general issue but a specific file issue. Just bad luck that I took this file that is nevertheless played with all other programs... Mp3 is no more a concern.

After checking deeper .m2v files into details it is also not a concern since I did forget that those files do you embed audio that is on separated files in .wav format, one per channel. (3 files for a single video isn't easy to handle... Those are from my former camera.)

That said, my big concern is about all my .m2ts files, that I have plenty of from the last 10 years, mainly from the following sources:

- Sony SLT77 and SLT99 cameras

- Magix Video Deluxe (several versions) and Video Pro X (I'm not a new client...)

Produced with Sony SLT77 or SLT99 cameras .m2ts

General
ID                                       : 0 (0x0)
Complete name                            : P:\_Famille\2019\Italie avril 2019\15-04-19_Florence\20190415130159.m2ts
Format                                   : BDAV
Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video
File size                                : 168 MiB
Duration                                 : 1 min 2 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 22.4 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 24.0 Mb/s
Recorded date                            : 2019-04-15 13:01:58+02:00
Writing application                      : Sony SLT-A77V

Video
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4
Format settings                          : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 2 frames
Format settings, GOP                     : M=2, N=13
Codec ID                                 : 27
Duration                                 : 1 min 2 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 21.2 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 22.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 25.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Interlaced
Scan type, store method                  : Separated fields
Scan order                               : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.410
Stream size                              : 158 MiB (94%)
IrisFNumber                              : 3.500000

Audio
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital
Codec ID                                 : 129
Duration                                 : 1 min 2 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 256 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Delay relative to video                  : -80 ms
Stream size                              : 1.90 MiB (1%)
Service kind                             : Complete Main

Text
ID                                       : 4608 (0x1200)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : PGS
Codec ID                                 : 144
Duration                                 : 1 min 1 s
Delay relative to video                  : -80 ms

 

Produced with Magix (This one with Video Pro X most probably)

General
ID                                       : 0 (0x0)
Complete name                            : O:\Videos_Famille\Concert Magali 2017 (Ste Anne + 2 x Académie)\Concert Singing Sisters et BAO5 Juin  2017.m2ts
Format                                   : BDAV
Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video
File size                                : 1.23 GiB
Duration                                 : 1 h 4 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 2 731 kb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 48.0 Mb/s

Video
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4
Format settings                          : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 2 frames
Format settings, GOP                     : M=2, N=25
Codec ID                                 : 27
Duration                                 : 1 h 4 min
Bit rate                                 : 2 230 kb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 25.000 FPS
Standard                                 : PAL
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Interlaced
Scan type, store method                  : Separated fields
Scan order                               : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.043
Stream size                              : 1.01 GiB (82%)
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Audio
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital
Codec ID                                 : 129
Duration                                 : 1 h 4 min
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 384 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 177 MiB (14%)
Service kind                             : Complete Main

I hope this clarifies the situation.

Both are Ac-3 codec "Dolby Digital". What should I do? It's ok for me to encode new videos in another format, but I'd like at least being able to import those videos and edit all the videos I still need to produce...

I'd like to further use Magix Pro X for that.

Any way to do so?
Would an update of my program for sure solve the issue?
Would Video Deluxe Premium 2022 do the job?

Regards,

Marc

@MME007

Hi

. . . . Both are Ac-3 codec "Dolby Digital". What should I do? It's ok for me to encode new videos in another format, but I'd like at least being able to import those videos and edit all the videos I still need to produce . . . .

Dolby AC 3 is the 'base encoder' for Dolby surround Sound the only difference is the video audio is stereo, the options available are as I mentioned in my first post - conversion or upgrade, VPX 13 and MEP 2022 can import AC-3 encoded audio.

For the M2V files - these are video only files they should have no audio present even though they are encoded using MPEG-2 compression.

John EB

Thanks, Sorry but I just understand now that VPX means Video Pro X but what means MEP 2022 is this Video Deluxe?

@MME007

Thanks, Sorry but I just understand now that VPX means Video Pro X but what means MEP 2022 is this Video Deluxe?

Hi Marc.

Yes. MEP (Movie Edit Pro) is what Video Deluxe is known as outside of Europe.

Ray.

@CubeAce

There are no problems importing mp3 files to play within MEP 2022 (which Marc is complaining about) 

Ray, try this one:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PsY1uD5ncsp9zYuobpyNn8FizNrQObwm/view?usp=sharing

@MME007

Marc, if you come across an MP3 that won't load (such as the one I linked to above), you can use VLC Player or Audacity to re-save it into a "better" MP3 that MEP will accept. A sample rate of 44.1 or 48khz are good values for MEP.

@AAProds @MME007 @johnebaker

Hi Al.

No it is not playing, due to the non standard 8bit 8Khz LAME 3 (CBR, VBR and ABR compressed).mono produced nature of the mp3 file.

Although it imports, the time stamp is misread and is identified as mono 16 bit file at 24kHz..

LAME does not follow the standard Fraunhofer recognized format for mp3 encoding which is why Windows also doesn't support the files natively.

Ray.

@AAProds, @CubeAce

Hi Alwyn

To add to Rays comment

Adding the original file in MEP 2022 detects as a samplerate of 24000 kHz and does not play

As soon as a track contains audio at a higher samplerate the original file gets shortened as you can see below, the converted file plays OK.

John EB

@MME007 @CubeAce @johnebaker

I was just pointing out that the statement that MEP opens MP3s isn't necessarily correct. There are MP3s that MEP can't open natively, as I suspect Marc has found.

In the dim dark past when I was trying to convert such a file, Magix Music Editor ???? 3? that came with MEP could open them happily and I used that to convert them.

Both the converted files (using VLC and Audacity) used the LAME encoder and the files open both in MEP and Windows Media Player, so I don't understand what you mean by not supported by Windows natively, Ray. WMP will even open and play my original dodgy file.

MEP is the oddity here, which is surprising given it's poor, free cousin, ME3 could open it.

@AAProds @MME007 @johnebaker

Hi Al.

I mean that the default video payer in Windows 10 is Film and TV, not Windows Media Player. You are correct, the file plays correctly in Windows Media Player, and in Groove Music. It seems that in Windows 10 it was the intention of Microsoft to split which player would cope with which formats.

Groove music even picks up on the embedded data. I think MEP and VPX use the default set of codecs from the Film and TV player rather than in the earlier releases of MEP which used Windows Media Player when it was the Windows default player. The lowest supported sampling rate in Film and TV seems to be around 11kHz. The same as MEP and VPX. It's possible to manually type in a lower sample rate within MEP and VPX but it still doesn't work.

ME3 is still the player supplied in MEP and it was that audio editor where I got the information on how it was being read from within MEP.

Now Groove Music as I understand it will shortly be replaced in Windows 11 by a new version of Windows Media Player. Old copies of Windows Media Player in Win 11 will be replaced in an update. Not long after, the same rollout will occur in a Win 10 update.

What formats or sample rates will then be supported I have no idea.

Ray.

@MME007

Hi,

Following your HDD crash, you have lost free activated DLLs to decode and even encode AC-3 stereo or Dolby Digital audio streams of your .M2TS files.

Reinstalling VPX 9 version 15.05.213 does not allow activate the audio pack needed for AC-3 again because MAGIX has disabled the download for older versions of MEP and VPX.

To be able to decode audio of your .M2TS files you must have a specific DLL in the C:\Program Files\MAGIX\Video Pro X\9\RegModule_x64 folder

Ditto for MP3 playback.

Can you check if the following DLLs are present under C:\Program Files\MAGIX\Video Pro X\9\RegModule_x64?
mx_dec_dd_audio_sse_x64.dll
mx_mp3_reader_x64.dll

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