New Release MMS 2024....

Former user wrote on 8/8/2023, 2:07 PM

@Reyfox Hi, I just upgraded to the suite version, haven't had much time to play with it but nothing new except the UI, you can select events on the preview window but I'm not impressed with that, Did 2023 have Mask Generator in Video Effects?

Vitascene V5 works inVPX14, MMS2024 & Vegas, again haven't had much time to play with it but couldn't get this transition to play fluidly even with prerender, but like i say haven't played with it much

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The new AVI export has a Constant/variable option, exports to an mp4 container with no alpha in this or single frame png

Former user wrote on 8/8/2023, 3:08 PM

There's something I can't work out with the transition, just after it gets past halfway the first clip gets brighter then goes back to it's orig 🤷‍♂️

Reyfox wrote on 8/8/2023, 3:15 PM

@Former user, t hanks for the update. I guess adding "new" is getting harder and harder.

I'm thinking the possibility of Vitascene though. Have you tried that problematic transition in VPX14 or Vegas?

Former user wrote on 8/8/2023, 3:20 PM

@Reyfox It's on a few of the transitions, it's only visible on the ones that you can still see the first event after the halfway mark

yes same in Vegas

Haha just watched that video above & realised there's lightning in the first video at the end, BIG DOH!!!!

Reyfox wrote on 8/8/2023, 3:22 PM

@Former user ahh... I now see what you are referring to. Is it by design? I would hope not! I guess this is a proDAD question.

Upon rethinking, if you play the entrance clip without the transition, is there lightning happening? That might be why it's lighter. What group and number is that transition? I have the same transition that you posted with Brick Wipes, in Vol 3.

Former user wrote on 8/8/2023, 3:26 PM

@Reyfox Edited my comment above, completely a user error 🤦‍♂️👴🙃😂

JCI-21 wrote on 8/9/2023, 2:04 AM

I didn't upgrade yet but I see that you didn't put back the vertical and horizontal gizmo like in the old Movie Edit Pro why, is that hard to code?.

AAProds wrote on 8/9/2023, 2:16 AM

@JCI-21

We're not the coders, we're not even Magix. They probably don't even visit this forum.

Out of interest, what gizmo are you talking about?

Former user wrote on 8/9/2023, 2:17 AM

@JCI-21 Hi, I don't know who you're asking, put an @ symbol in your comment & it will give you options of people you want to tag, there's no Magix staff on here. What 'vertical and horizontal gizmo' are you ref to? Can you describe it a bit better.

JCI-21 wrote on 8/9/2023, 10:33 AM

That green and red arrows is a gizmo but this image is from other program but that's what I mean.

About developers no looking into their forum program, how do they going to here feedback if they don't do that, in the mixcraft music program forum the developers once in a while interact with the users.

browj2 wrote on 8/9/2023, 10:47 AM

@JCI-21

Hi,

I have never seen that in Movie Edit Pro or VPX going way back. Which version did you see that in?

@Reyfox @Former user

Hi,

The new feature in MMS are the same as those in VPX15. I have already commented on this:

New Zoom Feature - Scroll down in the advert. It looks like it is zooming the Preview window which is something that we have always had.

In VPX15, Magix states "Zoom in with the mouse and use the tracker to work more precisely in the preview monitor and view details better." They also mentioned "tracker." I have no idea what this is.

I don't see anything about this in the manual and it's possible that it doesn't work - does something new about this work in MMS?.

A change not mentioned is in the Track Header. The title that you can type in has now been moved up so that you can see it without having to increase the height of the track.

I presume that bugs that I and others have mentioned previously have not been corrected. TBD.

I have not yet upgraded to MMS2024.

John CB

AAProds wrote on 8/9/2023, 10:54 AM

"Zoom in with the mouse and use the tracker to work more precisely in the preview monitor and view details better."

Hold the CTRL key down and the mouse wheel will zoom the preview monitor in and out. Cool. Practical? TBD!

Former user wrote on 8/9/2023, 11:36 AM

@browj2 @AAProds Yep zooming the preview with mouse+Ctrl has been an option for as long as i can remember , (crap memory 😂🤦‍♂️), it def was in the last couple of versions, I can't see any difference but haven't got old versions to compare.

'Tracker', Earlier after reading your comment I tried right click Attach to picture position, MMS froze, I had to close it with Taskmanager, Trying it again just now I can't it to work, I haven't used this much recently but it's fairly simple so i don't think i'm doing wrong 🤷‍♂️🙃👴

johnebaker wrote on 8/9/2023, 12:10 PM

@AAProds, @browj2

Hi

. . . . Hold the CTRL key down and the mouse wheel will zoom the preview monitor in and out. . . .

In addition to the zoom key combination, holding down the Ctrl key while dragging with the mouse moves the area of the image visible.

In VPX 15 the shortcuts are listed under the Program monitor

MEP 2015 and possibly later versions, had this capability - however it was undocumented.

As for the 'Tracker' - I would have expected a small inset window in MMS 2024 to show the viewed portion of the image/video in relation to the whole - something like this mockup

For VPX 15 the Source window would be used.

John EB

Reyfox wrote on 8/9/2023, 1:07 PM

I guess adding new features is getting harder and harder. What else can be added to entice someone to buy?

Bug fixes are something that I would guess is also done with the new release.

me_again wrote on 8/10/2023, 2:34 AM

@Reyfox

Bug fixes are something that I would guess is also done with the new release

I truly hope so, it's the only thing that will entice me to buy MS2024. I've got Vitascene 3 from many moons ago and I don't use that and MS2024 doesn't appear to have any "improvements" that I (think I) need.

However, I was never going to buy MS2023 so ....

AndyW

Reyfox wrote on 8/10/2023, 5:38 AM

@me_again, I also have Vitascene V3 and have used it sparingly in the past. And like you, I skipped MS2023. I'm on the fence about 2024 at the moment. The only enticement might be Vitascene V5. But looking at all the different transitions/effects I already have...

Maybe better (or working) integration with BorisFX Continuum.

browj2 wrote on 8/10/2023, 8:16 AM

@Reyfox @me_again @johnebaker @AAProds

Hi,

DéDé on the French forum has done up a video using the Text-to-Speech feature available with the subscription fr MMS2024. Quite amazing!

I just noticed another minor change in VPX15 and I presume that it's the same in MMS2024 - Templates, Image Objects - the icons for the standard folders from Borders to Layer masks have been changed.

Cosmetic only.

@johnebaker

I am still lost as to what the new zooming feature could be.

I tried out tracking in VPX15 and can't see anything different. BTW, tracking seems to work better but still does not show anything in the keyframe area to make adjustments. I selected SPR and moved the object where it went off of the target area and it seems to work, but no keyframes showed up under SPR.

Is this the same in MMS2024?

John CB

Former user wrote on 8/10/2023, 8:44 AM

. I selected SPR and moved the object where it went off of the target area and it seams to work, but no keyframes showed up under SPR.

Is this the same in MMS2024?

John CB

@browj2 When SPR is first used no keyframes auto appear, you have to Add Keyframe to add them, then they auto create as the image is moved, I would've expected a keyframe to appear on the very first change to any SPR settings

browj2 wrote on 8/10/2023, 9:27 AM

@Former user

Hi,

I know all of that, see my tutorials on SPR.

You missed the point. I was talking about motion tracking. The object that tracks the motion in the background video does not have anything listed in the keyframe area that gives the movement of the track. Before the advent of the new SPR, there were entries for motion tracking called Pin Object X and Y as shown below from MEP2021:

Note that there are no keyframes (I think that there used to be) but the kf's do show up on the timeline when curve view is activated for Pin Object.

Pin Object has disappeared in MMS and VPX. There is nothing to show the keyframes of the movement of the object on track 3 as shown above and in the video below (VPX15):

So, how can one fine-tune the tracking effect without access to the keyframes?

And where is this zooming thing that Magix mentions as a new feature? Magix mentions that it has something to do with tracking, but I can't find it.

John CB

Former user wrote on 8/10/2023, 11:39 AM

@browj2 Same here with 2024, this is after tracking & no keyframes

johnebaker wrote on 8/10/2023, 1:27 PM

@browj2, @Former user

Hi John, Gid

I am puzzled, it appears to me that the discussion has gone astray confusing the Attach to picture position (motion tracking) effect with the word 'tracker' mentioned in the New zoom feature Zoom in with the mouse and use the tracker to work more precisely in the preview monitor and view details better.

AFAICS there is no connection between the two.

The only thing I can think of that would makes sense of this is an overview of the current timeline cursor frame when zoomed in so you can see where the area is in relation to the whole frame as i mocked up in my previous comment.

John EB

browj2 wrote on 8/10/2023, 2:03 PM

@johnebaker

Hi John,

Yes and no. This is messed up a bit, but...

In VPX15, Magix states "Zoom in with the mouse and use the tracker to work more precisely in the preview monitor and view details better." So what tracker are they talking about (the only tracker I could think of is that for tracking motion or attach image to a video)? It should be the same in MMS2024 - but what? See my first post.

Your mock up is interesting, but is that it? Aha! I see that the Source Monitor in VPX15 now has the same monitor zoom features! But the tracker?

On the other side, the motion tracker (Attach to picture position in the video) has not been fixed. We brought this up with MEP2022, did we not?

John CB

Reyfox wrote on 8/10/2023, 3:06 PM

@browj2, Vegas has had the text to speech/speech to text for a while now. But like here, only with the subscription. Resolve right now can do speech to text, which I've used already, and it works quite well, but it's not a "must have" feature.

New features are getting tougher to "find". What would someone like next. AI is the supposed next "big" thing. What specifically will be done with that is something I guess we can see what the "big boys" do with it.