How to select the second audio channel. I know that I have 2 channels, it is also shown in the properties, but in the program I have no choice
Version 14.0 reads 2 channels:
Please help
Hi and welcome to the user to user forums.
The program you have now is not strictly speaking the one you had in version 14 which was Vegas Movie Studio.
The development of that version was discontinued by the Vegas team after version 17 and as such no longer exists. The more expensive Pro versions of Vegas however do still exist and look the same as your older version.
The Vegas versions of the program is where you get to see the wave-forms from both audio channels and a volume slider and pan slider in the left hand track header.
The program you have now is Magix Movie Studio which is a re-badge version of their Movie Edit Pro program.
Hence the completely different layout and feel of the program.
The waveform you see is a representation of both channels combined. It will still be stereo if the source file is stereo but the volume slider controls are now in a combined track mixer. The symbol for which can be found in the top right hand corner of the timeline editor.
The pan control and volume slider for each track can be found there.
If there is a specific reason you need to see the waveform of both channels please explain what it is you need.
Maybe the users here can help as some of members run both programs.
Ray.
Version 14.0 reads 2 channels:
Please help
@gawron Version 14 is Vegas a totally different program & has never been related or an upgrade to Movie studio platinum 2025. Don't expect the same
I used this file as an example, you can se in Vegas Pro the audio is bad/low on one channel
To get around this in MMS I used to use this option Mono or Both Right/Left,
But you can choose just Left or Right, you have to have separate audio tracks, I don't think duplicating the audio works so I dragged in a copy, not just the orig but a copy of the orig that had a different name, then MMS isn't using the same temp file twice.
The audio shows different levels in the track header but the waveform in the clip doesn't change 🤷♂️
I'm not an audio person & have been using Vegas for a few yrs now so anything else I knew about this I've forgotten, maybe someone else will be able to shed light on this.
@CubeAce Hi,
If there is a specific reason you need to see the waveform of both channels please explain what it is you need.
A few yrs ago I uploaded some videos to YT where the audio was mainly only on one channel, I'd made these in MMS/MEP, I tend to destroy the microphone in phone's by recording noisy machines, the picture above is an old clip but a good example. My speakers are under the desk & there is audio on both channels but I didn't notice the sound difference between the two until subscribers pointed it out.
I rarely opened the Mixer in MMS, you could prob count the amount of times I did in 20yrs on both hands & without opening the mixer there's no indication of any problems like I had. Audio to me normally doesn't go further then the volume slider.
I prefer Vegas for that if nothing else, the Wave shows both channels & can be easily be changed, & there's big stereo meter on screen.
Not bitchin about MMS just saying why I like to see both channels.
As you say Gid, horses for courses. It's what you get used to. In that respect I can work both ways but coming from mainly audio editors and live mixing with real components I prefer to see and use a mixer even as simple and limited as the MMS one is.
If you have one channel lower than the other then balancing the channels out will often also raise the noise floor of the lower channel but with the mixer it is just as easy to use the pan pot until the levels equal out.
Of course one level up using Video Pro X you could split the channels into separate inputs.
Ray.
@browj2 Your video refs to multi channel audio, the OP's is just a stereo clip.
These are the options in MS with a stereo clip, no audio track 1 or 2 options,
This is how Vegas displays Multi channel audio, I've 'borrowed' this pic.
@CubeAce Hi, yep it's an avenue I never needed to go down & it would've been a learning curve so never really went there. I'm only just experimenting with noise reduction fxs but my last vid I still just lowered the volume on the bits needed, A voice enhancer would be good, MMS has a couple I quite liked but in either program I haven't bothered much with that, I'm from Yorkshire so ya can like it or lump it 😂
@browj2 Your video refs to multi channel audio, the OP's is just a stereo clip.
These are the options in MS with a stereo clip, no audio track 1 or 2 options,
This is how Vegas displays Multi channel audio, I've 'borrowed' this pic.
@CubeAce Hi, yep it's an avenue I never needed to go down & it would've been a learning curve so never really went there. I'm only just experimenting with noise reduction fxs but my last vid I still just lowered the volume on the bits needed, A voice enhancer would be good, MMS has a couple I quite liked but in either program I haven't bothered much with that, I'm from Yorkshire so ya can like it or lump it 😂
the same video opened in VS14 showing 2 different audio channels MS2024 shows only 1
@browj2 Your video refs to multi channel audio, the OP's is just a stereo clip.
These are the options in MS with a stereo clip, no audio track 1 or 2 options,
This is how Vegas displays Multi channel audio, I've 'borrowed' this pic.
@CubeAce Hi, yep it's an avenue I never needed to go down & it would've been a learning curve so never really went there. I'm only just experimenting with noise reduction fxs but my last vid I still just lowered the volume on the bits needed, A voice enhancer would be good, MMS has a couple I quite liked but in either program I haven't bothered much with that, I'm from Yorkshire so ya can like it or lump it 😂
the same video opened in VS14 showing 2 different audio channels MS2024 shows only 1
@gawron Hi, Yes, like I say it isn't a multi channel audio video, It's regular stereo video with left & right channels. ignore @browj2's video, he's mistaken.
Hi
The limited options of working with stereo L and R channels has an Audio Cleaning tool, right click audio object to see it, which has a variety of tools for working with audio, shown below is the Stereo options and actions that can be performed.
HTH
John EB
Forum Moderator
You're quite right. I was assuming that this was a multi-channel video like from OBS where there are 2 stereo tracks. In the case of @gawron it's just simple left and right.
Hi,
As you have seen, you have some options under Audio Cleaning - double-click the audio part to get to Audio Cleaning.
Instead, ungroup the audio from the video, copy the audio from track 2 to track 3. Then double-click the audio on track 2, Stereo tab, open the dropdown and you have several choices, depending on what you want to do.
If you want to have just left at the left, the select left channel only and for the audio on track 3, right channel only. In each case, in the mixer you'll see only left or right gain showing. You can now use effects, including volume on each, but not pan. For the left channel, with pan at the centre or left, there is no difference. Pan to the right and you get no sound from the left side.
If you want to be able to mix some of the left channel with the right, then in audio cleaning, select Both channels left for track 2 and both channels right for track 3. Both left and right will be mixed together. You can use pan to get what you want. Or if one of the channels is bad, then you can mute it and the other will come out of both left and right channels.
In Video Pro X, it's easier. Right-click on the original audio and you can split the object into mono objects.
It all depends on what you want to do.
The main drawback is that MMS/VPX does not modify the waveform. This is on the wish list.
John CB
