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CBY_TLSE wrote on 1/9/2011, 4:19 PM

Hi,

 

I have both : Shure SM 58 (dynamic) and AKG Perception 200 (condensator) and use the both for voice recording.

 

The condensator type need a Phantom 48V power supply. It delivers a higher level output and records all noises around. It is dedicated to Studio and needs to be far away of a PC,  recording low level noises by example noises of PC's fans. You need a very quiet environment without any noises. I record in an other room with a 8 m cable, and close the door of the PC's room. You cannot hold it in your hand. It needs a stand with a damper, no vibrations allowed.

 

The Shure catches only the close sounds, is good but not so fine than the AKG. You can hold it in your hand and needs to sing/play at a very short distance. No Phantom power supply needed.

 

In both case you need first a good audio interface or/and a good mic preamplifier. The inboard sound chipsets of motherboard need a very high level tuning and in this case provide noise, specialy with dynamic type whose levels are generaly lower than condensator type. 

 

It depends on your environment and what you want to do. For the quality, it depends on the mic... and generaly the price! Don't buy a very low price mic or read/ask advice. Check the output level. All the chain must be good : mic, cable, preamplifier, AN converter. In a first step it is better to invest in a good audio interface or sound card. A very good dynamic mic on an inboard chipset has difficulties to provide good records.

 

Regards

Elkan wrote on 1/10/2011, 2:18 AM

@CBY TLSE - so how come the Rode M2 and Shure KSM9 are condensators for live use. I thought the same as u write.

 

I too have a SM58 for live purpose and a SE 2200 A for recording in my home studio.

 

But there are a lot of condensator mics for live use: how come?? Neuman, Shure, Rode, Sennheiser, Beyer, SE, AKG - they all have handheld live mics.

CBY_TLSE wrote on 1/10/2011, 3:40 AM

Hi,

 

@moec,

 

The handheld condensator live mics include a suspension shock mount as can be be readen in Rode M2 and Shure KSM9 documentation.

 

But I guess they don't have the same sensibility than the Studiomics in order to avoid recording environmental sounds? I don't have practice of these kind of mics. People having these mics could give an advice.

 

Regards
 

nihon94 wrote on 1/10/2011, 4:48 AM

Hi,

 

Recently I have purchased AT2010 CARDIOID CONDENSER VOCAL MICROPHONE
Audio-Technica. I like it very much. I prefer quality than cost.

Answer to your question depends upon need and usage also budget.

I am giving you some links which will explain in detail what you have asked.

 

http://homerecording.about.com/od/microphones101/a/mic_types.htm

 

http://www.build-a-recording-studio.com/microphones.html

 

http://homerecording.com/bbs/equipment-forums/microphones/condenser-vs-dynamic-mics-11915/

 

Thank you

nihon94

 

 

CBY_TLSE wrote on 1/10/2011, 12:41 PM

HI,

 

regarding the sensitivity and the output level :

 

dynamic : SHURE SM58    -54.5 dBV/Pa (1.85 mV/Pa)

 

handheld condensator:

 

AT 2010           -48 dBV/pa (3.9 mV/Pa)

Rode M2           -44 dBV/pa (6.3 mV/Pa)

 

STUDIO Condensator :

 

SE 2200                   -37 dBV/pa (14 mv/Pa)

Perception 220          -35 dBV/pa (18 mV/Pa)

Neumann U87 AI                          28mV/Pa

 

Generaly condensator mics deliver a higher output than dynamic mics. Large diaphragm Studio mics deliver a higher output than small diaphragm. They don't need a large preamp level avoiding noise.

 

Regards