MEP Overview - Poor caption visibility

terrypin wrote on 8/26/2015, 5:35 AM

I suppose age is a factor in the occasional difficulty I have in reading it after a few hours at the PC. But I'm darned if I can understand the thinking of whoever chose grey text on a grey background!

Is it still the same in MEP 2015?

 

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johnebaker wrote on 8/26/2015, 5:56 AM

Hi Terry

Looks perfectly fine to me in both 2014 and 2015.

The only rider I would add to my comment is that both my screens are colour corrected and profiled which makes quite a difference in how colour contrasts are perceived.

John EB

 

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terrypin wrote on 8/26/2015, 6:06 AM

 

Hi Terry

Looks perfectly fine to me in both 2014 and 2015.

Hi John,

Is it grey on grey like mine?

 

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johnebaker wrote on 8/27/2015, 3:08 AM

Hi Terry

In the Overview view it is grey on grey.

My main monitor for the program is 1920 x 1080 and the Overview text is 2mm high with no zoom applied -  to give you an idea of the relative size, this text - aeiou - is 1.7mm high on my screen - which is quite small.

HTH

John EB

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VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

terrypin wrote on 8/29/2015, 6:40 AM

Hi John,

Higher res: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4019461/GreyOnGrey-1.jpg

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browj2 wrote on 8/29/2015, 10:59 AM

Hi Terry,

First camping, now domestic chores - old house problems - fix toilet, change upstairs piping, yardwork, little Magix. I need some magic.

I agree that the text is hard to read, but when you click on a scene in Scene mode, the background goes to a bluish colour and the text is black. Is that any easier to read?

Magix has a new look for VPX7 and maybe they will use it in MEP2016. The text is still small but is not grey on grey as you can see below; it's light grey on dark blue. Clicking on a scene puts black text on a medium blue background.

For better clarity.

So, it looks like they figured this out themselves.

However, I still have trouble with the timeline text, which has not improved, unless the clip is selected, as you can see below:

For better clarity.

Here is a shot of the default VPX7 screen, which I like a lot. Normally, I have the Preview monitor on a second screen and the Folders at the top between the source monitor and the media pool.

Interestingly, VPX7 no longer has a Storyboard button, but it can be accessed by going into Basic mode, and Magix does not recommend using it.

Regards,

 

 

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terrypin wrote on 8/29/2015, 12:48 PM

Hi John,

Did you mean to send another screenshot? I see only two.

I have no problem with the Storyboard, just the Overview as you see from my original comparison. I'm using it a bit more now to improve my preparatory work (deletions, re-sequencing, etc). I've tended in the past to use the timeline exclusively, rushing into detailed editing before I should!

Another problem with filename visibility in the timeline is that you can, of course, only see it if you have relatively few objects in view, otherwise the objects are too short. I switch on Size/Position instead (hotkey in my case is NumPad +,  right next to the mouse).

Higher res: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4019461/MEP-Timeline-FilenameViewing-1.jpg

I'm glad you're around. I was just about to compose a query I have about audio clips, hoping to hear from you or John EB as the resident audio experts. I'll do it right now.

But don't let it change your priorities: fixing toilets comes high on the list.

 

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browj2 wrote on 8/29/2015, 1:29 PM

Hi Terry,

I meant to post another screen shot but got messed up somewhere between the text and the toilet.

Here is a shot of VPX7 setup - not the one that I normally use. Note the Folder view at the bottom right. This can be quite useful and it has fields with properties and you can put in a description.

For more clarity.

Here is the same but in scene overview.

For more clarity. The bottom zoom slider makes the icon images larger, but not the text. At least I can see the entire filename when I zoom in, and it is clearer in VPX7 than in MEP2014.

Nothing new above.

You are right about the Storyboard and Scene Overview. I had never used them much until I started doing the tutorial and realized that I should have been using them more often at the beginning, just to see where I'm going.

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John C.B.

VideoPro X(16); Movie Studio 2025 Platinum; Music Maker 2025 Premium Edition; Samplitude Pro X8 Suite; see About me for more.

Desktop System - Windows 10 Pro 22H2; MB ROG STRIX B560-A Gaming WiFi; Graphics Card Zotac Gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX-3060, PS; Power supply EVGA 750W; Intel Core i7-10700K @ 3.80GHz (UHD Graphics 630); RAM 32 GB; OS on Kingston SSD 1TB; secondary WD 2TB; others 1.5TB, 3TB, 500GB, 4TB, 5TB, 6TB, 8TB; three monitors - HP 25" main, LG 4K 27" second, HP 27" third; Casio WK-225 piano keyboard; M-Audio M-Track USB mixer.

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