MEP not showing full length of video files

jak.willis wrote on 9/25/2021, 4:36 AM

Hi,

I currently use MEP 2019 Premium. I have been trying to load some .ts files into the program, but when I drag and drop them onto the timeline, the video is not all there. In other words, the length of the video is cut shorter when it displays on the timeline. Does anyone know what the problem is here?

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johnebaker wrote on 9/25/2021, 8:41 AM

@jak.willis

Hi

A MediaInfo analysis of one of the .ts files would help.

John EB
Forum Moderator

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me_again wrote on 9/25/2021, 9:36 AM

@jak.willis

The analysis John asked for is essential to help find out the problem. That may well show the problem instantly.

Having said that, I've had many and various problems with .ts files not fully loading in the past. I've found that often the problem is the timestamp breaks (I think that's what they are anyway) get corrupted somewhere along the line. If this is the case then, for example, a 45 minute TS file would only load maybe the first 8 minutes and disregard the rest.

To "cure" this is often impossible but in some instances can be done with some difficulty, time and patience.

1 - Convert the TS file to MPG by rewriting the .ts extension to .mpg. This only works about 5% of the time. Many people may laugh at this but it has worked on rare occasions.

2 - Convert the TS file to MKV. This works quite often. There are many free apps that will do this. I use the free MKVToolnix

3 - Convert the TS file to an MPG using one of the myriad of free programs on the 'net.

4 - Convert the TS file to another TS file using Avidemux or similar with the copy video and audio setting.

5 - Run the TS file thorugh a free program called "MPEG Streamclip". This is an EXTREMELY OLD program that I've use since before Windows XP that uses Quicktime if you can find it.

MPEG Streamclip is very tempremental and doesn't like Windows 10 at all in any of the compatibility modes but when it does work it is brilliant. It has a setting called "Fix Timestamp Breaks" and it does just that. You can then save tha file as another TS or as an MPG. I reckon I've had 90%+ success with this program and TS and MPEG files - when it works (whether it works or not seems dependant on which particular Windows Update is active).

None of these options I've offered are guaranteed to work. I've spent hours some days trying to get a TS to work properly only to give it up as a bad job - or if you're really desperate you could try a screen recording.

Whatever you decide, send the Mediainfo first. It's probably something simple and believe me you can save yourself a lot of hassle, time and hair.

AndyW

"Just when I think I've learned the workrounds of MEP/MS the bounders go and update it"

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AAProds wrote on 9/25/2021, 9:56 AM

@me_again

None of these options I've offered are guaranteed to work. I've spent hours some days trying to get a TS to work properly only to give it up as a bad job

I reckon VideoRedo would fix it.

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Bluray Burner: Pioneer BDR-212D

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2025

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 v22H2

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

VPX 12

me_again wrote on 9/25/2021, 10:21 AM

@AAProds

Greetings, Good thinking, VideoRedo may well fix it

I was only considering free ways of repairing the file without re-encoding. I was under the impression that VideRedo was both paid for and a re-encoder. I'm willing to be corrected though.

AndyW

"Just when I think I've learned the workrounds of MEP/MS the bounders go and update it"

Aorus Z690 Elite DDR4 Motherboard

12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-12700K, 3600 Mhz, 12 Core(s) 20 Logical Processor(s)

64gb (4x16gb sticks) DDR4 3200Mhz

Intel(R) UHD Graphics 770

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4060 Eagle OC 8Gb DDR6 DLSS3 Windforce

Corsair RM750 PSU, be quiet! Pure Rock 2 cooling

System drive 500Gb 4.0NVMe M,2 SSD, dedicated video/audio drive 2Tb Gen 4 NVMe SSD, 2x 500Gb Local Fixed Disks (Music etc), USB3 expansion drive 5Tb and 2Tb

Audio Onboard ALC1220 Amp-Up, Windows 11 Home updated as and when

Movie Studio 2025 Suite, Photo Manager Deluxe 13

Norton 360

All Drivers updated as they become available.

jak.willis wrote on 9/25/2021, 11:05 AM

@jak.willis

The analysis John asked for is essential to help find out the problem. That may well show the problem instantly.

Having said that, I've had many and various problems with .ts files not fully loading in the past. I've found that often the problem is the timestamp breaks (I think that's what they are anyway) get corrupted somewhere along the line. If this is the case then, for example, a 45 minute TS file would only load maybe the first 8 minutes and disregard the rest.

To "cure" this is often impossible but in some instances can be done with some difficulty, time and patience.

1 - Convert the TS file to MPG by rewriting the .ts extension to .mpg. This only works about 5% of the time. Many people may laugh at this but it has worked on rare occasions.

2 - Convert the TS file to MKV. This works quite often. There are many free apps that will do this. I use the free MKVToolnix

3 - Convert the TS file to an MPG using one of the myriad of free programs on the 'net.

4 - Convert the TS file to another TS file using Avidemux or similar with the copy video and audio setting.

5 - Run the TS file thorugh a free program called "MPEG Streamclip". This is an EXTREMELY OLD program that I've use since before Windows XP that uses Quicktime if you can find it.

MPEG Streamclip is very tempremental and doesn't like Windows 10 at all in any of the compatibility modes but when it does work it is brilliant. It has a setting called "Fix Timestamp Breaks" and it does just that. You can then save tha file as another TS or as an MPG. I reckon I've had 90%+ success with this program and TS and MPEG files - when it works (whether it works or not seems dependant on which particular Windows Update is active).

None of these options I've offered are guaranteed to work. I've spent hours some days trying to get a TS to work properly only to give it up as a bad job - or if you're really desperate you could try a screen recording.

Whatever you decide, send the Mediainfo first. It's probably something simple and believe me you can save yourself a lot of hassle, time and hair.

AndyW

 

Hi,

I currently use Windows 7. I will get the mediainfo analysis uploaded as soon as possible.

The other issue with this is that the .ts files themselves have been copied over from my Panasonic Recorder. On the recorder you can edit the recorded programme by cutting bits out, and so I like to cut the adverts out of programmes. But then when I copy the recorded programmes over to the PC, the points at which I set the cuts at on the recorder are not accurate. In other words, when you play the files on the PC, the bits that I cut out are still there even though they were cut out on the recorder. So I’m very confused by all this.

 

jak.willis wrote on 9/25/2021, 2:19 PM

@jak.willis

Hi

A MediaInfo analysis of one of the .ts files would help.

John EB
Forum Moderator

Hi, here are the screenshots of one of the files in mediainfo. The files are .m2ts, not .ts. Sorry for the confusion there.

AAProds wrote on 9/25/2021, 6:52 PM

@me_again

I was under the impression that VideRedo was both paid for and a re-encoder. I'm willing to be corrected though.

Andy, VideoRedo is indeed a paid-for program. But it will smart-render almost everything (as long as you're not crossing formats).

It is my go-to program for TV recordings and editing out the ads; MEP is just too clumsy. waiting for the frametable and graphics data. With VRD you can do 10-sec (actually totally customisable) jumps to scoot through the file to find the ads, and mouse wheel to frame-advance. It can't do lots of thing MEP can do, but for fixing up dodgy files so MEP will accept them, and of course the killer ability to smart-render all types after chopping out ads, it is great. It also does frame-accurate edits. Highly recommended.

Last changed by AAProds on 9/25/2021, 6:55 PM, changed a total of 2 times.

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Bluray Burner: Pioneer BDR-212D

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2025

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 v22H2

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

VPX 12

me_again wrote on 9/26/2021, 3:40 AM

@AAProds

Ooh, sounds interesting, I may give that a go.

As for all the blurb I wrote above it may be useful to someone but obviously not to the OP as he's using M2TS which is a differnt kettle of fish altogether - so to speak.

AndyW

"Just when I think I've learned the workrounds of MEP/MS the bounders go and update it"

Aorus Z690 Elite DDR4 Motherboard

12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-12700K, 3600 Mhz, 12 Core(s) 20 Logical Processor(s)

64gb (4x16gb sticks) DDR4 3200Mhz

Intel(R) UHD Graphics 770

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4060 Eagle OC 8Gb DDR6 DLSS3 Windforce

Corsair RM750 PSU, be quiet! Pure Rock 2 cooling

System drive 500Gb 4.0NVMe M,2 SSD, dedicated video/audio drive 2Tb Gen 4 NVMe SSD, 2x 500Gb Local Fixed Disks (Music etc), USB3 expansion drive 5Tb and 2Tb

Audio Onboard ALC1220 Amp-Up, Windows 11 Home updated as and when

Movie Studio 2025 Suite, Photo Manager Deluxe 13

Norton 360

All Drivers updated as they become available.

johnebaker wrote on 9/26/2021, 4:44 AM

@jak.willis

Hi

Thanks for the MediaInfo data, unfortunately the crucial data item that we require is missing ie if the framerate is Constant or Variable - this may not be available in the video file data.

. . . . Panasonic Recorder . . . .

Given the date of the recording, would this be a Panasonic VHS/DVD recorder?

If so:

Which model?

Did you record directly to disc or tape?

How did you do to get the .mt2s video file from the recorder to the PC?

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 24H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

jak.willis wrote on 9/26/2021, 5:49 AM

@jak.willis

Hi

Thanks for the MediaInfo data, unfortunately the crucial data item that we require is missing ie if the framerate is Constant or Variable - this may not be available in the video file data.

. . . . Panasonic Recorder . . . .

Given the date of the recording, would this be a Panasonic VHS/DVD recorder?

If so:

Which model?

Did you record directly to disc or tape?

How did you do to get the .mt2s video file from the recorder to the PC?

John EB

Hi,

I think it may be the name of the file that’s causing you to question how old the recorder is. The “June 2000” is what I named the file as the recording is an episode of a TV show.

My recording machine is a Panasonic DMR-BWT850EB. What I did was first copy the TV recordings from the recorder to a Blu-ray Disc, then copied the files from the Blu-ray Disc on to the computer.

If you play the Blu-ray Disc on a Blu-ray Disc Player then the cutpoints are accurate, but if you play/copy them on Windows, the cutpoints are inaccurate. This issue is exactly the same with .ts files.

So, right now, the only way I can fix this, basically, is to load the files in to a program where I can cut the adverts back out, and then export without re-encoding so that there is no loss of quality. But this is a bit of a pain as I have already cut the adverts out on the recorder.

me_again wrote on 9/26/2021, 11:38 AM

@jak.willis

Greetings,

Now - apologies if I appear a little vague here but I'm trying to remember a conversation I had with a LG technical person some years ago when I had a similar sort of issue with an LG DVD recorder when I dropped down a recording from the Hard Drive to a DVD.

I was querying the fact that I could dub from the HD to DVD a recording in FAST mode (no re-encoding) when I hadn't editied out adverts etc, but when I had edited out I had to re-encode to Auto, SP,LP etc.

Apparently it was because the DVD recorder, when editing out the adverts, removed the advert time stamps from the file index but not physically remove the advert.. When played back on the DVD player all played well. The only way to dub to DVD without the adverts was to literally play the video on the HD and record it on the DVD.

Hope I remembered this correctly and it makes sense and I hope it helps you.

AndyW

Last changed by me_again on 9/26/2021, 11:39 AM, changed a total of 1 times.

"Just when I think I've learned the workrounds of MEP/MS the bounders go and update it"

Aorus Z690 Elite DDR4 Motherboard

12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-12700K, 3600 Mhz, 12 Core(s) 20 Logical Processor(s)

64gb (4x16gb sticks) DDR4 3200Mhz

Intel(R) UHD Graphics 770

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4060 Eagle OC 8Gb DDR6 DLSS3 Windforce

Corsair RM750 PSU, be quiet! Pure Rock 2 cooling

System drive 500Gb 4.0NVMe M,2 SSD, dedicated video/audio drive 2Tb Gen 4 NVMe SSD, 2x 500Gb Local Fixed Disks (Music etc), USB3 expansion drive 5Tb and 2Tb

Audio Onboard ALC1220 Amp-Up, Windows 11 Home updated as and when

Movie Studio 2025 Suite, Photo Manager Deluxe 13

Norton 360

All Drivers updated as they become available.