MEP 2013: Invisible object - another example.

terrypin wrote on 11/6/2012, 1:29 PM

I suspect a serious bug here somewhere.

Once again, there seems little chance of anyone reproducing it. But this is the second 2013 project in two days with this sort of problem. These illustrations hopefully explain.

Or for better quality: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4019461/MEP2013-InvisibeAudioClip-Another.jpg

And here's what I did immediately before. I had two finished projects, made earlier in MEP 2013: Day 1-3 and Days 4-5 (of a holiday in Nice, France). With the first open I added the second (without closing). Then I copied it and pasted it into the first, at the point shown. This was preparatory to burning a DVD of the whole project, Day 1-5, which I cannot do now.

Here's the obvious source, i.e. the only place in the entire project where that sound occurs. Somehow MEP has picked it up and injected its contents at an arbitrary time in the pasted section, without displaying it.

Or for better quality: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4019461/MEP2013-InvisibeAudioClip-Source.jpg

The only behaviour I've ever seen that has any similarity at all is a fairly frequent occurrence (in all recent versions). The preview monitor will briefly show a totally irrelevant image, often something at or close to t=0 (or occasionally t=end), even though the marker or selected object is far into the project timeline. It's never had any serious consequences, and I've dismissed it as one of MEP's many quirks. But the new 'invisible object' issue may be related - and is serious!

The backup https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4019461/OneTrackPuzzle-John.zip

which I included in my last post in the thread

http://www.magix.info/uk/mep2013-invisible-track-contents.forum.878638.html

is small enough for anyone whose curiosity is piqued sufficiently to try. Just see what happens if you load MEP 2013 with TextReveal-2-Abba.MVP. I get the invisible tracks I described in that post.

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Terry, East Grinstead, UK

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johnebaker wrote on 11/6/2012, 3:46 PM

Hi Terry

Thanks for the files - I have tried them in MEP MX, 2013 and VPX 4.

I am not sure if this is a bug or not - I get exactly the same results as you in MX and 2013.

Opening the project in VPX 4 also gives the same result as 2013 - one image object no visible sound or title objects yet you can hear the audio and see the titles when playing !!!!!

I suspect there may be something in the project which causes an issue combined with maybe a different loading sequence in 2013 and VPX

A guess would be something like a default action which is different if specific track information for where to put objects is missing or corrupted.

I think in this case it may be worth while putting in a bug report and point them to this topic so they can download the files to have a look at.

John

terrypin wrote on 11/6/2012, 4:37 PM

Hi John,

Thanks very much for taking the time to test this, really appreciate it.

I've advised Ralf about the issue, following the second occurrence of an invisible object (as described in my separate post).

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Terry, East Grinstead, UK