John

Thanks for the explanation.

I though that might be the only way to do it.

It's a pity it can't be done in a similar one click way as the single frames.

Thanks Again

I found that I can Save objects as Takes and then import  Each Take individually into fresh project and export it to an appropriate video format. 

Help Quote:

The selected  are saved in the directory. To use , please read the chapter "Saving objects separately" in the PDF manual.
Keyboard shortcut: Strg + F

When looking up the help it tell me to refer to the manual pdf for an explanation how to work with takes but I can't find any reference to Save Objects as takes in the pdf.

Question

Can anyone advise if they are aware of any unique features when working with saved takes?

Observation

The software still creates a lot of work during editing due to lack of logic from start to finish.

I feel still Magix has a long way to go with respect to making editing a totally user freindly experience.

Takes are given Generic names like: VTS_01_1007.

As I edit, I chop the video into chapters and name each chapter because it tells me more about that chapter (object) than a number such as VTS_01_1007. It would be good it the text I entered as I worked the through the editing process could be transfered in some way so I didn't need to keep re-entering it. It's the same when importing, it would be nice to have the option of continuity rather than wasting time. I would rather spend half an hour editing than longer because of  poor software design.

This would save me having to go back through all the takes to work out  what I've already named during editing of the project.

Although Takes are a great  answer to my question,..............

The software should be designed to maximise editing ability while minimising time and effort from start to finish of a project.

Hi Whalebat

Takes get their naming from the actual object name they are taken from, in your case I would think the video on your timeline is called VTS_01_1  and the take file VTS_01_1007 is the seventh take you have made from that video.

Takes are a great way to cut and save sections of a long video that you can re-use as you wish.

Disadvantage of Takes is that they are not video files.

They are a reference file which tells MEP which video file to use, where the start and end points are and what effects are applied to that section of video. 

You still need the original file for MEP to use otherwise you will get the file missing file error message on loading the project next time..

. . . . I can't find any reference to Save Objects as takes . . .

It is under 'Regroup scenes' and  'Scene markers'  in the manual which also refers to 'Saving objects sperately' - however this section does not appear to exist.

John

Hello John

Thanks for the heads up on takes.

Shame about the missing manual pages !

Shame about the missing manual pages !

 

Hi Whalebat,

It also appears missing from the MX manual as well as the 2013 version, but is in the MEP 17 manual on page 114, as follows.

Save objects separately

Individual objects or object groups from the arranger may be saved separately
via the project folder as a separate files. For example, cut out trailers, jingles,
and so on that you need converted, and then save them for other projects for
reuse as a take.

A take file (*.tk2) contains a reference to a multi-media file or to a special object
(videos, sound, visuals, etc.) including all additional properties that an object
may possess (start and end time, fades, and effects including effects curves).

To save, select the corresponding objects in the arranger and group them as
required ("G"). Next, select "Add to project folder" via the group's context menu.

An entry will now be added there that is named after the object in the arranger.
The context menu allows you to name these entries logically, comments may
be added via "Properties", and save them as a take.
Saved takes may be loaded via the "Load" button in the project folder.

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Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Hi

I would suspect that the section Save objects seperately has been removed because the instructions  - AFAICS - are not valid for MEP 17, MX or 2013 .

The file extension is now .tak , there is no Add to project folder option in the context menu and takes are saved in the Takes folder.

IIRC these instructions were for MEP 14 and earlier and I suspect were inadvertently left in the manual.

@Terry

Can you confirm this in your MEP 17 if you still have it installed.

John

Hi

I would suspect that the section Save objects seperately has been removed because the instructions  - AFAICS - are not valid for MEP 17, MX or 2013 .

The file extension is now .tak , there is no Add to project folder option in the context menu and takes are saved in the Takes folder.

IIRC these instructions were for MEP 14 and earlier and I suspect were inadvertently left in the manual.

@Terry

Can you confirm this in your MEP 17 if you still have it installed.

John

Hi John,

Yes, you're spot on. That documentation is invalid for MEP 15, 16 and 17. Symptomatic of careless updating of the manual, examples of which I've reported many times over the years. I'm curious to know if the German version is better?

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Terry, East Grinstead, UK