Magix Movie Edit Pro 2013 Plus problem with multicam

mailboxmoney wrote on 1/28/2013, 1:25 AM

Can't get the 'size/position function' to work properly after using multicam edit. I'm a bit baffled.

The Help section clearly states the following-

It is also important that you make all effect settings for the output material (e.g. video or audio cleaning) before the multicam edit on the objects on the source track and on the master audio track. These effects will be transferred to the objects in the target track with the edit. Otherwise, you will have to apply the effects from every single object to the target track.

So I did what it said. I changed the size/position of a video that I, unfortunately, took vertically (which I'm sincerely regretting) while it was one of the source tracks (track 3). The issue being that particular camera focus is being squeezed to a small sliver of what it's supposed to be (1440 width) . I needed to expand it. I certainly know how to change size position while that video is in a source track. That is not the problem.

The problem is that if I change it prior to the multicam edit ( as instructed in the Help section), none of the size/positioning feature takes effect when I return to Timeline mode. In fact, after having spent hours going through the previous sections in Timeline fixing each and every one, it erased all my previous size/position fixes for every single cut when I returned to Multicam mode !

Anyone have ideas how to get the size/position function to work with multicam edit function ?

Thanks in advance!
p.s. I've been using the multicam feature and really enjoy the syncing of the audio feature that's been added. It's made life much easier than previous MEP versions. FANTASTIC!

p.p.s. Using MEP 2013 MX Brand new Windows 7 operating system HP Laptop with 1TB of memory and many bells and whistles.

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emmrecs wrote on 1/28/2013, 6:27 AM

Hi.

I've just tried this in VPX4, which is very similar to MEP, I think. With multicam mode NOT on I applied a 90 degree rotation to one track and then Effects>Size/Position to make it "fill the screen". I then switched to multicam mode and immediately received this message: "Warning: Effects Settings which affect the size or position of the objects will be overwritten for multicam mode". So rotation, yes; size/position, no!

So, the help file, although not strictly "wrong", does not give the full information!

I suspect the only way to achieve rotation and size/position changes is to render/export the affected track and then reimport this new version to MEP multicam mode.

HTH

Jeff

johnebaker wrote on 1/28/2013, 4:19 PM

From the manual:

It is also important that you make all effect settings for the output material (e.g. video
or audio cleaning) before the multicam edit on the objects on the source track and on
the master audio track (view page 106). These effects will be transferred to the
objects in the target track with the edit. Otherwise, you will have to apply the effects
from every single object to the target track.

Again not the full information.

@Carl

If I add rotation effects on one of the source video eg rotate through 360 deg overlength of clip, then the effect is not transferred, however as you have found a single flip through 90 deg does.

Colour correction is also applied

I suspect the 'statement' above only applies to video cleaning, audio cleaning, colour correction and orientation which are definitely effects that should be transferred.

Whether Ken Burn's effect, rotation with time etc should be transferred is open to debate - personally I cannot see the point of doing this until after you have the required clips from each track selected and put on track 1.

John

mailboxmoney wrote on 1/28/2013, 4:54 PM

Thanks all for the quick responses!

@johnebaker John, you mentioned...Whether Ken Burn's effect, rotation with time etc should be transferred is open to debate - personally I cannot see the point of doing this until after you have the required clips from each track selected and put on track 1.

The reason I want to do them' prior to' is that I started out with 5 hours of video on Track 3. Of which then breaks out (after multicam edit) into hundreds of little clips on Track 1. Doing it AFTER the edit means I now have hundred of adjustments to make (on Track 1) rather than one or two depending on the number of videos on the original Track (Track 3). In this particular case, 'size/position' prior to the multicam edit seems like it should be an easy styling function that should've been in some bug fix waaaaay back in MEP 1. Just sayin'...perhaps you can put in a good word on that?

@emmrecs Jeff, you are correct! Rotation worked fine. Size position did not. Seems now like it will take a lot of effort for something that should've rather intuitively been included with the software. Thanks for the workaround. That could work on the next round. Meanwhile, must now go back in and fix every little clip (on Track 1) to make this right. It's either that, or do the workaround you suggested...and re-do the entire multicam edit that way. Either way- hours to fix. Thanks for the idea.

johnebaker wrote on 1/28/2013, 5:20 PM

Are the size/position settings the same for all the clips from the one track?

If so you can save time as follows:

1. Put the effect on the first clip you need to apply it to on track 1

2. Then right click the clip and select Video effects, Copy video effects and in the Select effects dialog select all

3. Select the next clip that the effect is to be applied to

4. Hold down the Ctrl key and select all the other clips that need the effect, if you select one that you don't mean to, then click it again to remove the selection. release the Ctrl key when you finished selecting.

5. Right click one of the selected clips and select Video effects, Paste video effect

As you have 'hundreds' of little clips I would suggest you do them in batches of 15 - 20 at a time.

Hopefully this helps and saves you time.

John

mailboxmoney wrote on 1/28/2013, 10:17 PM

Thanks John. That should help save a little time anyway.