Lost project, can't find them via backups.

jake-h wrote on 9/17/2020, 11:14 AM

(Magix edit pro 2016) Alright, let me explain this nonsense because it does not make any sense to me. I worked on a project that was on the 9/14/2020. All of a sudden it is gone. There are no autosaves of it. I searched in the folder. Gone. I have no idea why it did not autosave. My computer had to restart because of some dumb garbage where every time I export a video into my pc it does this, it has nothing to do with actual updates. It annoys me greatly. But it did this restart while I was asleep. I kind of forgot about it. I also noticed that it isn't asking me for a back up of the closed project. The work I did on it is now gone. I am down to the old autosaves. Fyi I set the autosave to every 2 minutes. So this makes zero sense to the loss of these autosaves. The only things that only saved, which is also proof of the date of these projects, are the PerfBounce saves. Which are useless to me.

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CubeAce wrote on 9/17/2020, 1:13 PM

@jake-h

Hi Jake.

Check your folder locations haven't been changed. If they have you will find the files in the new location.

Ray.

 

 

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1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

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jake-h wrote on 9/18/2020, 4:24 AM

@jake-h

Hi Jake.

Check your folder locations haven't been changed. If they have you will find the files in the new location.

Ray.

 

I checked and it still remains the same. :(

emmrecs wrote on 9/18/2020, 4:46 AM

@jake-h

I would be very surprised and very annoyed if any version of any software was able, by itself, to delete my "projects", so I would be seriously looking at whether Windows has had a recent Update or whether my computer hardware was in some way failing!

Have you tried to "find" the missing projects by doing a search of your whole computer for the specific file by name? Assuming you're using Win 10, the "magnifying glass" icon is a very useful tool to help in finding otherwise "missing" items.

If that search produces no results then I would seriously consider the other two possibilities I mentioned: has Windows installed an update recently which could have altered file and access permissions? Is your hardware, especially your hard drive, functioning properly and without serious error?

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johnebaker wrote on 9/18/2020, 4:54 AM

@jake-h

Hi

. . . . My computer had to restart because of some dumb garbage where every time I export a video into my pc it does this . . . .

If I read this correctly - did you have this option checked when exporting?

If not please clarify what you mean by this.

What is drive H: - an internal hard drive, USB drive or what?

The Perfbounce folder is the cache for preview playback.

John EB
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jake-h wrote on 9/18/2020, 5:10 AM

@jake-h

Hi

. . . . My computer had to restart because of some dumb garbage where every time I export a video into my pc it does this . . . .

If I read this correctly - did you have this option checked when exporting?

If not please clarify what you mean by this.

What is drive H: - an internal hard drive, USB drive or what?

The Perfbounce folder is the cache for preview playback.

John EB
Forum Moderator

Whenever I export on both Magix and sony vegas. The computer always seems to want to do an update. That option is not selected. Maybe the pc gets overwhelmed with the prcress because the file can be large.

jake-h wrote on 9/18/2020, 5:10 AM

@jake-h

I would be very surprised and very annoyed if any version of any software was able, by itself, to delete my "projects", so I would be seriously looking at whether Windows has had a recent Update or whether my computer hardware was in some way failing!

Have you tried to "find" the missing projects by doing a search of your whole computer for the specific file by name? Assuming you're using Win 10, the "magnifying glass" icon is a very useful tool to help in finding otherwise "missing" items.

If that search produces no results then I would seriously consider the other two possibilities I mentioned: has Windows installed an update recently which could have altered file and access permissions? Is your hardware, especially your hard drive, functioning properly and without serious error?

Jeff
Forum Moderator

I checked and that sadly might be the dumbest case to have actually occurred.

johnebaker wrote on 9/18/2020, 6:08 AM

@jake-h

Hi

. . . . The computer always seems to want to do an update . . . .

Windows update or program update?

What is the H: drive I asked about?

It helps if you answer all the questions asked - it makes for a much easier response when we have the information requested

John EB
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jake-h wrote on 9/18/2020, 6:40 AM

@jake-h

Hi

. . . . The computer always seems to want to do an update . . . .

Windows update or program update?

What is the H: drive I asked about?

It helps if you answer all the questions asked - it makes for a much easier response when we have the information requested

John EB
Forum Moderator

 

I am sorry! I do not seem to have an H drive. Unless you are talking about the main hard drive. Windows update is what it seems to be going for. Again sorry for not giving proper responses. I am just upset about this.

johnebaker wrote on 9/18/2020, 7:28 AM

@jake-h

Hi

. . . .Again sorry for not giving proper responses. I am just upset about this. . . .

No problem, I have an idea of what may be going on.

In the program settings image you posted the Project folders are on drive H: - circled in red on your image below

Can you post a screenshot of Windows Explorer showing the drives as shown below

and right click the H: drive, select Properties and post a screen shot of that dialog too.

John EB

Last changed by johnebaker on 9/18/2020, 7:29 AM, changed a total of 1 times.

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Scenestealer wrote on 9/18/2020, 7:32 AM

@jake-h @johnebaker

Bit of confusion here - H drive was just an example in Ray's screen shot of a folder path that could have got changed - so not relevant to Jake's installation.

If Windows is doing, or has just done an update during your problems then anything could be happening - make sure it is complete and shows as completed in Windows update history, and to be on the safe side do a "Restart" via the power button option. Also if you have not customised any of the MEP Program Settings you could "reset the program settings to defaults" via the file menu, to ensure your default folder paths had not been accidentally changed.

Peter

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CubeAce wrote on 9/18/2020, 7:49 AM

@johnebaker

Hi John.

Jake just re-posted my image in his reply. It Says C:/ Users / Ray: in four places.

@jake-h

Are we to assume two things?

That you only have one drive and that the projects you produce do not include importing any files into the actual projects but use the files residing in their original folders?

Do you know how to use Windows Search? You need to look for files marked MPV. With the full stop.

If the projects were stored on another drive other than the C: drive you will have to point Windows search to that drive first before making the search.

Ray.

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5011

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 566.36 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

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Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

johnebaker wrote on 9/18/2020, 8:08 AM

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

. . . . Jake just re-posted my image in his reply. It Says C:/ Users / Ray: in four places . . . .

I was only looking for the Project folder location !!!

@jake-h - Apologies for the confusion over the drive letters, can you post a screen shot of your Project settings, Folders tab and the Windows Explorer I previously requested.

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

jake-h wrote on 9/18/2020, 8:45 AM

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

. . . . Jake just re-posted my image in his reply. It Says C:/ Users / Ray: in four places . . . .

I was only looking for the Project folder location !!!

@jake-h - Apologies for the confusion over the drive letters, can you post a screen shot of your Project settings, Folders tab and the Windows Explorer I previously requested.

John EB

@johnebaker

Hi John.

Jake just re-posted my image in his reply. It Says C:/ Users / Ray: in four places.

@jake-h

Are we to assume two things?

That you only have one drive and that the projects you produce do not include importing any files into the actual projects but use the files residing in their original folders?

Do you know how to use Windows Search? You need to look for files marked MPV. With the full stop.

If the projects were stored on another drive other than the C: drive you will have to point Windows search to that drive first before making the search.

Ray.

@jake-h @johnebaker

Bit of confusion here - H drive was just an example in Ray's screen shot of a folder path that could have got changed - so not relevant to Jake's installation.

If Windows is doing, or has just done an update during your problems then anything could be happening - make sure it is complete and shows as completed in Windows update history, and to be on the safe side do a "Restart" via the power button option. Also if you have not customised any of the MEP Program Settings you could "reset the program settings to defaults" via the file menu, to ensure your default folder paths had not been accidentally changed.

Peter

@jake-h

Hi

. . . .Again sorry for not giving proper responses. I am just upset about this. . . .

No problem, I have an idea of what may be going on.

In the program settings image you posted the Project folders are on drive H: - circled in red on your image below

Can you post a screenshot of Windows Explorer showing the drives as shown below

and right click the H: drive, select Properties and post a screen shot of that dialog too.

John EB

Alright. I understand everything now.
I do not use another drive to archive my saved files. It's the main C drive to where my materials are saved. I did a deep search by selecting "this pc" Hit the search bar by putting the name "mara" and sadly got the same results as from the original folder to where the autosaves are put.

jake-h wrote on 9/18/2020, 8:47 AM

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

. . . . Jake just re-posted my image in his reply. It Says C:/ Users / Ray: in four places . . . .

I was only looking for the Project folder location !!!

@jake-h - Apologies for the confusion over the drive letters, can you post a screen shot of your Project settings, Folders tab and the Windows Explorer I previously requested.

John EB

No worries! :)

jake-h wrote on 9/18/2020, 8:50 AM

@jake-h

Hi

. . . .Again sorry for not giving proper responses. I am just upset about this. . . .

No problem, I have an idea of what may be going on.

In the program settings image you posted the Project folders are on drive H: - circled in red on your image below

Can you post a screenshot of Windows Explorer showing the drives as shown below

and right click the H: drive, select Properties and post a screen shot of that dialog too.

John EB

More specifics on what to do when I share the screenshot of the properties?

CubeAce wrote on 9/18/2020, 12:14 PM

@jake-h

Hi Jake.

What we are saying is you need to scan all your other drives for the .MPV file extension in case they were placed elsewhere by accident or a corruption. If you look at my earlier image of my scan it brings up all the project files with their names on whatever drive is scanned if there are any files to be found.

Ray.

Last changed by Scenestealer on 9/18/2020, 4:48 PM, changed a total of 1 times.

Reason: corrected full stop - .MPV

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5011

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2130 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 21TB of 8 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 566.36 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."