Is HEVC encoder worth purchasing? (Hardware encoding on Nvidia GPU?)

pmikep wrote on 10/26/2015, 4:28 AM

Update: If you inspect the mx_enc_hevc.vex file, you'll find

ComDll=mx_enc_mpeg_intel.dll

ComDllx64=mx_enc_mpeg_intel_x64.dll

Looks like the HVEC encoder only works with Intel CPUs. Rats.

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Okay, I recently upgraded to MEP 2016 Plus. I notice it has a new encoder just below the H.264/MP4 encoder, HEVC. I tried to export a video using it and find it's a 5 USD purchase.

Well, the price is low enough. I don't do 4K video (and never will). So I don't really need it. But I'm curious if anyone has purchased it and if it does hardware encoding on the latest Nvidia graphics cards with the latest (non-CUDA) Nvidia drivers? That is, does it support NVENC? i'm looking for an answer from somone who has actually registered the encoder and has acutally used it with a non-Intel chip GPU.

Started with MEP 11, then 17, then MX, then MEP 2013, 2015, then 2016. Changed to the fast competitor after that, which worked fine with my non-Intel hardware. Then bought a used Dell with an Intel GPU, just to play with MEP again. Installed MEP 2020 Plus in March 2020, even tho I don't like losing patches if I have to reinstall after a year.

Testing on a Dell Vostro, <s>i3-8100</s> updated to i5-9400 w/ UHD 630, 16 GB 2400 DDR4 (CL15), Win10 Home, heavily NTLite'd. Now with GTX-1650 Super OC'd. Added a WD Blue M.2 for OS (PCIe 3), Apps, Temps and Video-In. 2 Monitors. A WD Blue SSD for outputs. (SATA III.)

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johnebaker wrote on 10/26/2015, 5:46 AM

Hi

. . . . I don't do 4K video . . . .

The HEVC codec is not limited to just 4k video - you can use it for 1920*1080 as well.

HEVC is also known as h.265 which is a successor to h.264 - see here

The most likely usage you would have, is for HD video on the web - where you need maximum compression to reduce the file size without losing quality. 

At which point comes the obvious question which devices support h.265 - but that is another topic.

HTH

John EB

 

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pmikep wrote on 10/26/2015, 8:50 AM

The highest res I've done (and ever expect to do) is 1280 x 720. I don't expect HEVC to compress any better for that than H.264 does already. I primarily want to get the video encoded on hardware instead of the CPU. According to the Nvidia website, my graphics card, an Nvidia GTX 960 supports both HEVC encoding and HEVC decoding. (Maxwell chip set.) I've already got MPEG set to decode on the GPU - although I haven't done any testing to see if it's doing it and/or if it's any faster than doing it on the quad core, 3.8 GHz CPU.

MEP Plus 2016, v15.0.0.77; Win 7 Home, 64-bit, SP1 + patches.

Hi

. . . . I don't do 4K video . . . .

The HEVC codec is not limited to just 4k video - you can use it for 1920*1080 as well.

...

HEVC is also known as h.265 which is a successor to h.264 - see here

HTH

John EB

 

 

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Started with MEP 11, then 17, then MX, then MEP 2013, 2015, then 2016. Changed to the fast competitor after that, which worked fine with my non-Intel hardware. Then bought a used Dell with an Intel GPU, just to play with MEP again. Installed MEP 2020 Plus in March 2020, even tho I don't like losing patches if I have to reinstall after a year.

Testing on a Dell Vostro, <s>i3-8100</s> updated to i5-9400 w/ UHD 630, 16 GB 2400 DDR4 (CL15), Win10 Home, heavily NTLite'd. Now with GTX-1650 Super OC'd. Added a WD Blue M.2 for OS (PCIe 3), Apps, Temps and Video-In. 2 Monitors. A WD Blue SSD for outputs. (SATA III.)

johnebaker wrote on 10/26/2015, 10:12 AM

Hi

. . . . I don't expect HEVC to compress any better for that than H.264 does already . . .

On the contrary, the compression capabilities are much higher than that of h.264 - on average by a factor of 2 -  the file sizes are significantly reduced.

IMHO you have the cart before the horse - it is not a question of whether you want to use the GPU or not, but what your intended target audience is for the video you produce. 

If it is for the Internet and you are hosting the video where it does not get converted then HVEC is relevant and the fact that you can encode on the GPU is a bonus.

HTH

John EB

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VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 23H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.