Thankyou very much...
How exactly do I open the new movie (raw video without logo) in ''another tab'' though please??

Do you mean drag & drop it onto line 3?
Or to open a new project?

@Apollo89x

MEP allows multiple timelines, called Movies. Click on the + button to the right of the tab at the top left of the timeline to create a movie. Click on the pop-down to see the options.

I strongly suggest that you read the Quick Start chapter in the manual to better understand.

John CB

Thanks, I have opened a new tab and put my raw footage for new movie on that timeline,
however when I return back to the original timeline I'm not sure which objects to click on to copy & paste??

As that 1st timeline has the video footage on the top column (split into 12-13 segments of footage),
and then below on the lower column that there are the movie effects.

But so do do I drag over all (both columns) or just 1? Do I need to ungroup them before doing it?
And then on the new movie tab do I click on the new footage and then click to paste it onto it? Or click on the lower (empty) column where the effects should be, and paste it to there?


Thankyou

I'm having trouble visualizing your first timeline. You lost me with the word "column." There are tracks vertically and time horizontally; there are no columns. Can you post some screenshots?

Reread the instructions. You are supposed to be copying/pasting effects, not objects.

"...when I return back to the original timeline I'm not sure which objects to click on to copy & paste??" You indicated that you have exactly the same video in film 2 except for the logo, so I am assuming that the second movie will be identical. Since it appears that you have multiple objects, then you have to do them one at a time unless they all have exactly the same effects. Copy the effects from object 1 film 1 to same object 1 in film 2, then effects for object 2 film 1 to object 2 film 2, etc. This assumes that you have different effects from object to object and possibly keyframes.

If you have all the same effects on all objects and no keyframes, then the effect from any object in film 1 can be applied to all objects in film 2.

Which case do you have?

John CB

The effects are all the exact same ''effects mask''.
Each effect is simply me adding that effects mask to the footage (as a face blur), plus having set it to track the face-movement (and so want that tracking movement to be copy & pasted too).

But so to confirm I just drag the mouse over ALL the effects on the lower 'track' in project 1#, select all & click copy effects...
Then go to project 2#, put new video on top track, and on the lower track click 'paste' effects?


 

The effects are all the exact same ''effects mask''.
Each effect is simply me adding that effects mask to the footage (as a face blur), plus having set it to track the face-movement (and so want that tracking movement to be copy & pasted too).

But so to confirm I just drag the mouse over ALL the effects on the lower 'track' in project 1#, select all & click copy effects...
Then go to project 2#, put new video on top track, and on the lower track click 'paste' effects?

Yes, that should do it.

John CB

I did that, however it doesn't work... :/

The effects show on the lower track on new timeline, but don't actually perform their function (or in other words they don't actually add any effects to the footage in the track above them).

Tried to 'group' the tracks together but still nothing.

I just reread what you wrote. No, you can't copy 'effects' in bulk, only objects. Thus you copy/paste the masking objects from film 1 to film 2. They will come in with their respective effects.

It's hard to help when I can't see the timeline.

Ok I have tried copy & pasting a single ''object'' (the element from the lower track on track 1#) onto the lower-track of the new project, but it doesn't work.

I can do a screen-record video if that'd help?

The reality appears to be though that using Magix you CANNOT copy & paste the effects from project 1# into project 2# (so that on project 2# the facial blurring will be identical to how I manually created it + setup the movement tracking to be on project 1#)...??



 

It works fine for me.

Are you copying the effects or the object with effects? Assume that an object is not an effect.

Are you using MEP basic, or Plus/Premium?

Ok I have tried again and it quite simply does not work | As magix software does not offer the basic capability to 'save & load' effects from 1 project into another project!




 

It works fine for me.

Are you copying the effects or the object with effects? Assume that an object is not an effect.

Are you using MEP basic, or Plus/Premium?

 

Sorry but no what I have explained does not work for you, as magix software is simply too sub-standard to offer the function which I have stated.

If you upload an oval mask effect JPEG into a video, yes you can copy that oval in the lower-timeline and then 'paste an oval' into a new project.
(Although if I merely wanted that shape mask in my new project I would upload it directly from its folder on my laptop, no need to copy & paste).

However if you upload that same jpeg into a video at 56.64 seconds, set it to a certain size and set it to motion track the movement of a face for 3.26 seconds, then do the same 10x more at different stages during the video...
You cannot then just 'copy & paste' that all into a new project (same video) and have those same effects show up at those same timings on your new video + track the exact same motion pattern in the new video.

 

Yes, you can with Plus or Premium. But you didn't answer my question. Are you using the basic version?

And yes, you can save effects and load them into a different project, again, with Plus/Premium.

@Apollo89x

@browj2

I can duplicate John's findings. What is a problem is if you want to track a different position as the automation is fixed at that point when copied.

Hi,

Open the previous project with the effects. Open a new movie in another tab. Import the raw video clip without your logo. Go to the first movie, select the video and press the shortcut - which will give you a screen for copying effects. If you want to copy all effects, click on Continue. The effects are now in the clipboard. Go to the second movie, select the video clip, and use the shortcut Shift+- . Done.

Save as with a different project name if you want.

Instead of using shortcuts, right-click, Video Effects, Copy video effects....

John CB

Hello I have followed step-by-step what you wrote, however it hasn't worked... :|

I have done a screen-record showing what I did, but so if you would be kind enough to let me know why it hasn't worked that'd be much appreciated?


Thanks

@Apollo89x

Hi

The method of copying effects does not work due to:

1. you are trying to copy the effect from 2 objects at once, this you cannot do.
    
2. the video clips and the mask object on the first timeline are individual components, the second timeline only has one video object.
   
   You must copy and paste the effect on like for like The effect you should be copying is off the 'Cropped circle' object however depending on how you created this the method may changing.

I use a different technique see this tutorial for masking faces, this allows for multiple masks, the method I think you have used does not.

Can you describe how you created the blur effect.

John EB

To blur faces I simply cut the segment of footage I want, go to distortion, set Sand to 100%, add effects mask, resize the mask over the face, click attach to image, and it tracks/processes for a few minutes following the face.
(That feature works fine)



In regards to what you said though, I have re-tried using just 1 segment of footage with a pixelated face, but it still has the same result.

So it seems MEP does not have the technology/features in which you can add facial blurring with tracking to video footage, then copy & paste those onto duplicate footage (with the facial blurring & tracking automatically being identical on that new project as you set it on the previous one).


If you yourself would be kind enough to upload an example video showing (in simple steps) exactly what & where you click to do it, that'd be much appreciated?
*As I simply don't understand what you mean when you use that techno-babble wording such as like-for-like/objects vs effects... ect, Sorry. :(

 

@Apollo89x

A like for like object would be a completed effect. With the plugin no longer active and the activity recorded and set. These settings can then be saved, but they will be set with the original alterations along that particular timeline of the effect when it was active. Even when reopened as a saved effect it's actions will be exactly the same as they were before.

An effect, when open, can be changed and altered while the effect is open. Actions applied can be recorded for that section of the timeline. Again, once the effect is closed, the actions are set until the object (clip) is re-selected and the effect opened again for alterations.

Thankyou, however I literally don't understand any of what you wrote above due to the techno language which you used. :/
(I'm a video-shoots Producer & Director | Not a techie, so only understand very basic simple wording when it comes to tech software)

But so to hopefully help me workout how to achieve what I'm trying to do, based on my uploaded video, where & what do I need to click (in simple basic words please please | nothing technical) differently to what & where I clicked previously?

As I followed the step-by-step instructions of:
https://www.magix.info/us/forum/how-to-load-saved-video-effects-facial-bluring-onto-a-new-video--1240300/#ca1523647
 

@Apollo89x

I'm working on a video showing the steps.

Some quick comments.

1. You used the command to have the mask automatically follow the picture. This does not work well unless there is a lot of contrast between the object in the rectangle and the rest of the image. In your case, there is not much contrast so there will likely be some problems with the automatic calculations. A better way is to keyframe the movements of the mask using Size/Position.
2. In the first movie, you cut the section that you want to apply the mask to and you put a mask on that section. The mask is an object that has effects applied to it; it is not an effect in itself.
3. When you apply a mask in the manner that you did, it gets grouped/linked to the selected clip. This is a special type of procedure that does not copy/paste easily. You cannot just copy the mask and paste it elsewhere because it is linked to the video.
4. In the second movie, you did not cut the video and you did not apply the mask. You have to do this.
5. Then, in the first movie, you selected the mask and copied the effects. Look at the dialogue box. The effects copied were the size and the x and y positions for the movement of the mask and the chromakey alpha effect.
6. Then you went to the second movie and you selected the entire video clip and applied the effects that were on the mask to the video clip. Thus, you applied the chromakey alpha effect to the base video which turned it into B&W, and you applied the movement of the mask to the video, thus the video moves.
7. This is why John EB indicated that you did not paste to a like object. You copied the effect on the mask and applied it to the video. You have to apply the effect from the mask to a mask.
8. Thus, in the second movie, you have to cut it at the same points. Apply the same mask. Go to movie 1, select the video clip that has the Sand effect applied to it and copy that. Then go to movie 2, the same split clip, and paste this sand effect to that. Then back in movie 1, select the mask and copy the effects, go to movie 2 and paste the effects onto the mask.
9. There will be problems because when you paste effects onto a grouped or linked object, the effects get applied to both.
10. Solution, from the video, delete the size/position or pin effects and the alpha effect. From the mask, delete the sand effect. You do this by clicking on the popdown arrow beside the effect.

There is a much simpler way to do all of this as per the tutorial that John EB pointed you to. This way you can have multiple masks and simply copy them from one movie and paste them in the other. You don't have to copy the effects because the effects come along with the copied object. However, you still have to apply the effect to the background video by copying and pasting it. I'll do a quick video showing that as well.

John CB

@Apollo89x

Hi

Thanks for the method detail - as I said above 'You must copy and paste the effect on like for like The effect you should be copying is off the 'Cropped circle' object however depending on how you created this the method may changing.'

This is how it is done using your method - note - the ungrouping is essential - if you do not do this you already have seen the result, I also used the 'standard' Mosaic effect.

Once you have copied the effects to both objects then you can regroup them if necessary.

Note: if you want to mask 2 or more faces then this method does not work, you need to use the method I linked to in my previous comment above.

HTH

John EB

Hello and thankyou extremely much for this tutorial video...
Plus also to the other person who commented above this post (after yours). :)

I will follow the steps you have shown in the video when I next have free time (away from all my other editing) to test that out.


One quick question though, which the other person referenced in their post after yours...
Your effects-mask seems to stretch for the entire duration of the footage.

But for mine, the footage total duration will be 6-10mins length, however to ensure the mask covers the correct area + tracks it properly (even when the face isn't visible/moves off the screen) I have to split the total footage into 10+ mini-segments (and manually apply the mask to each mini-segment) as shown in my video where there are 2 segments.

But so on the 2nd project do I need to also split the footage into 10 segments (with the split at the exact same time as in project 1),
And then do what you've shown in your video to each segment individually?