@johny_lovin_it

Hi

. . . . I want to get into vintage looks with vhs graphics, effects and transitions. . . . .

Vintage look - the main way you would do this is by changing the colour balance for this MEP/VPX has some effects already under Movie Looks. These are a form of LUT - a preset colour shifting/changing effect, you can get LUTS for free or a small fee which have the vintage look - note they must be 3D LUTS.

Vintage effects - for old film look eg scratches, the odd hair in the shutter and slight weaving effect and vignette edges there are many overlay video clips available on the Internet for free and purchase, I do not know it there are overlays available which would mimic the low resolution (lines) and graininess of VHS - some of the Movie Looks do this eg 16mm

Vintage transitions - is there such a thing (?). transitions were limited mainly to cuts, fade out/in - the standard transitions combined with the looks and effects should be enough.

HTH

John EB

@johnebaker

Hi John.

There certainly is such a thing as vintage transitions. I worked at Presbury's Screen Publicity and they invented the rotating star burst between commercials for ITV (remember those?) among other transitions and also later when TV went to colour.

There are a lot of vintage video effects and overlays for Adobe Premier. Most could be reproduced with a bit of work but if you want off the shelf stuff just to insert quickly, no other editing package gets close to what is on offer at the Adobe shop. All at a price of course.

Ray.

@johnebaker

Hi John.

There certainly is such a thing as vintage transitions. I worked at Presbury's Screen Publicity and they invented the rotating star burst between commercials for ITV (remember those?) among other transitions and also later when TV went to colour.

There are a lot of vintage video effects and overlays for Adobe Premier. Most could be reproduced with a bit of work but if you want off the shelf stuff just to insert quickly, no other editing package gets close to what is on offer at the Adobe shop. All at a price of course.

Ray.

But I don't want to jump to another software for those things and premiere pro doesn't have the feature where I can overlap a track and have it crossfade. I know it has those best features but I was hoping if there is a way to have that in Magix. In that link I posted, the videos show what they do and it effects the video track too, like for example, not only you see the glitchy stuff, it makes the video either split, distort or shake or jump, etc. In Premiere Pro, the rest do the work. But in others, you have to edit the video to make it do those things. You see what I mean? What I'm looking for is those kinds of things that can work on Magix. If it bought Vegas, it must've included the features Vegas has.

Hi Ray

Yes I do remember those 'transitions', I have used some of the old TV transitions in a spoof advert I did a few years ago.

@johny_lovin_it

Hi

Most of the animations etc in the article you linked to can be emulated in MEP/VPX.

Here is a quick example of the 'Retro VHS' video animation in the article you linked to - the timeline looks like this - the three video clip sections are offset from each other horizontally using Size & Position, the Alpha masks are keyframed to move downwards revealing the next offset clip, the first mask has the Alpha direction arrow pointing down, the second up.

HTH

John EB

@johny_lovin_it Hi, I had a quick look at the link you shared but then realised there's 9-10 videos on there, I know you mentioned ' for example, not only you see the glitchy stuff, it makes the video either split, distort or shake or jump, etc.' but i think you're going to have to be a little clearer about what you want to do, I have the complete Boris suite & Newblue Total FX, I can prob/poss do everything on that link, they're both OFX plugins, Newblue works in MEP but Boris only partially works,

@johny_lovin_it Hi, I had a quick look at the link you shared but then realised there's 9-10 videos on there, I know you mentioned ' for example, not only you see the glitchy stuff, it makes the video either split, distort or shake or jump, etc.' but i think you're going to have to be a little clearer about what you want to do, I have the complete Boris suite & Newblue Total FX, I can prob/poss do everything on that link, they're both OFX plugins, Newblue works in MEP but Boris only partially works,

Okay, i'll try again. In the same link, check out the third sample that says 'Creation VHS Effects' where after the guy puts the tape in and the logo appears, you see the white stuff fly around and the film itself is like vibrating left and right before it hiccups and then the white noise appears. The next one with the beach, it distorts while the white noise appears again, glitches to the next scene with the squirrel. And the same thing again. Then it goes more extreme with the animal, the dancing, it looks really messed up and the film stretches so much like that while the glitch noises appear, its awesome. And then the one with the butterfly on the flower, the clip scrolls up or down like crazy before glitch appears again.

Then the 'VHS Video Effect Overlay' is a pretty good overlay but its a template that can be easily put over the clip, right?

Or how about the 'VHS Toolkit' that has both templates and effects/transitions that do those things to the film I mentioned earlier. It has both included in one package.

And of course, the 'VHS Retro Trailer', need I say more? Just having those that affect the film to jump, shake, twist apart clips as those white noises appear, that's what I'm looking for. I just want transitions to make my simple videos, maybe once in awhile, add an overlay or template and it looks like less work so I can make videos quicker. Premier Pro has too many hoops to leap over. Davinci Resolve looks balanced but has some flaws. Not sure but I just think Magix is near perfect for simple easier less time-consuming stuff but with missing stuff I'd like it to include. But maybe it has already? That's why I'm asking before I buy/upgrade.

So johnebaker, if they can be emulated, what does that mean? If I buy those effects, can they be imported to Magix and function the same as in premiere pro or Resolve?

@johny_lovin_it Newblue has an RGB fx, add in some scanlines, vertical hold effect like @johnebaker shows, a bit of noise, some colour degradation & maybe a bit of ghosting,

All those you mention could be done but you'd have to get creative if you don't use a plugin,

Newblue & Boris Continuum have that effect that can be applied & work pretty much in MEP, Continuum also has TV damage transition but that doesn't show in MEP, you'd have to create that using an effect,

Newblue also has Earthquake that shakes the image

Effects you add can be saved as a preset, right click on the media on the timeline.

this one i saved as TV it then shows in My Presets & can be applied to a new project/object

@johny_lovin_it Newblue has an RGB fx, add in some scanlines, vertical hold effect like @johnebaker shows, a bit of noise, some colour degradation & maybe a bit of ghosting,

All those you mention could be done but you'd have to get creative if you don't use a plugin,

Newblue & Boris Continuum have that effect that can be applied & work pretty much in MEP, Continuum also has TV damage transition but that doesn't show in MEP, you'd have to create that using an effect,

Newblue also has Earthquake that shakes the image

Effects you add can be saved as a preset, right click on the media on the timeline.

this one i saved as TV it then shows in My Presets & can be applied to a new project/object

Do I need VPX 14 for this?

@johny_lovin_it PS, i can't remember exactly how it's done but Vegas Video Stabilization in MEP can be applied to a video clip that is already jumpy/bouncy/shaky , that data can be saved & applied to a good video & it will make jumpy/bouncy/shaky

@johny_lovin_it

Do I need VPX 14 for this?

No, you could also do the same in Movie Studio (Move Edit Pro). It's just that VPX is a notch up for speed and accuracy with the correct hardware. By that I mean some of the basic controls have more adjustments in its basic tool set and VPX has better control of audio and video in general if you want to get very precise. Exports can be faster and playback smoother (again with the right hardware) than Movie Studio.

Third party effects in general work in both but one or two work better in VPX.

Personally I can't tell the difference between something I produce in Movie Studio over VPX unless I need more control over a particular aspect of a video clip I'm working on.

Ray.