@jak.willis

Hi

If you have already burned to ISO image or disc, to ensure that any changes you have subsequently made, to the movie and/or the menus, are applied to the ISO image or disc you must re-encode all.

John EB
Forum Moderator

Well at the moment the files are just in the timeline.

@jak.willis

Hi Jak

. . . . Well at the moment the files are just in the timeline. . . .

In that case you should not get the message asking you if you want to Encode all etc. when you burn to ISO image or disc.

However, if:-

• the imported video files are not already in the BluRay encoding format, ie eg h.264 in a m2ts file with the correct framerate and bitrate
• there are images in the project
• the video clips have been trimmed
• titles, captions etc have been added
• added any effects, transitions, etc

then the movie(s) (timeline(s) have to be encoded.

John EB

@jak.willis

Hi Jak

. . . . Well at the moment the files are just in the timeline. . . .

In that case you should not get the message asking you if you want to Encode all etc. when you burn to ISO image or disc.

However, if:-

• the imported video files are not already in the BluRay encoding format, ie eg h.264 in a m2ts file with the correct framerate and bitrate
• there are images in the project
• the video clips have been trimmed
• titles, captions etc have been added
• added any effects, transitions, etc

then the movie(s) (timeline(s) have to be encoded.

John EB

Well the files are H.264, and there have been no changes made in the timeline.

@jak.willis

Hi

. . . . Well the files are H.264, and there have been no changes made in the timeline . . . .

In that case and assuming the video clips have cut 'transition', ie are butted up to each other with no gaps between them, then try turning on the Smart Copy option in the Encoder settings, Advanced settings of the burn dialog

There is no guarantee Smart Copy will copy the video - it is very particular about the source video parameters, if they are not met the encoder will re-render the video.

John EB
 

@jak.willis

Hi

. . . . Well the files are H.264, and there have been no changes made in the timeline . . . .

In that case and assuming the video clips have cut 'transition', ie are butted up to each other with no gaps between them, then try turning on the Smart Copy option in the Encoder settings, Advanced settings of the burn dialog

There is no guarantee Smart Copy will copy the video - it is very particular about the source video parameters, if they are not met the encoder will re-render the video.

John EB
 

Yes, I tried Smart Copy but it didn’t work.

I also ticked smart rendering, but when I exit the dialog then click back into it, I find it has un-ticked itself.

So is there no way at all to simply burn the files to disc with menus?

Should I try with the MainConcept codec?

@jak.willis

Hi

. . . . So is there no way at all to simply burn the files to disc with menus? . . . .

No.

, , , , Should I try with the MainConcept codec? . . . .

As the Smart Copy and Smart rendering did not work, the video files on the timeline are not BluRay compliant.

For BluRay discs to be playable in any BD player, or Player software that supports BluRay, the video files for the movie and the menu(s) must be BluRay compliant irrespective of the encoder used.

With the MainConcept encoder the result will be the same, the non-compliant video will be rendered to be compliant.

There is nothing you can do to get around the BluRay standard's requirement and create a playable disc without rendering at some stage.

John EB

@jak.willis

Hi

. . . . So is there no way at all to simply burn the files to disc with menus? . . . .

No.

, , , , Should I try with the MainConcept codec? . . . .

As the Smart Copy and Smart rendering did not work, the video files on the timeline are not BluRay compliant.

For BluRay discs to be playable in any BD player, or Player software that supports BluRay, the video files for the movie and the menu(s) must be BluRay compliant irrespective of the encoder used.

With the MainConcept encoder the result will be the same, the non-compliant video will be rendered to be compliant.

There is nothing you can do to get around the BluRay standard's requirement and create a playable disc without rendering at some stage.

John EB

So if what I'm trying to do won't work in MEP, is there another authoring/burning software that does allow you to burn the files to disc without re-encoding, and that also lets you create a customized menu?

@jak.willis

Hi Jak

I think you are missing the point - it does not matter which software you use, if the source video files are not BluRay compliant, they will be re-encoded instead of being copied or smart rendered.

You cannot bypass this and create Bluray discs which meet the required standard for a playable disc.

There is much more to a BluRay, and DVD, disc then the video files for the main movie and menus, there are control files, play lists, clip info files and other support files, that the player needs to actually play a disc.

John EB

@jak.willis

Hi Jak

I think you are missing the point - it does not matter which software you use, if the source video files are not BluRay compliant, they will be re-encoded instead of being copied or smart rendered.

You cannot bypass this and create Bluray discs which meet the required standard for a playable disc.

There is much more to a BluRay, and DVD, disc then the video files for the main movie and menus, there are control files, play lists, clip info files and other support files, that the player needs to actually play a disc.

John EB

But yet I could just create a data disc with the files on?