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rraud wrote on 2/17/2022, 4:56 PM

Sorry @KDeBoer, I am not very familiar with AS-12, which was a departure from all the legacy and subsequent Sound Forge versions. Is there a limiter plug-in inserted someplace or are you just hearing gain reduction taking place?.. which could be at the source or in the A/D interface (soundcard). Otherwise, I was not even aware a plug-in could be inserted directly in SF's 'record' architecture.

KDeBoer wrote on 2/17/2022, 5:19 PM

Here's a photo of what happens when I record. I didn't set anything up to keep the sound file limited to the -6 parameters, it just does it on its own. I have an RX 8 plug that includes fixes for clip, click, hum and noise that I rarely use, and I didn't make any manual adjustments to those.

Thank you!

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rraud wrote on 2/17/2022, 6:10 PM

It certainly appears there is some kind of limiting happening. I would look at your soundcard/interface settings. Is the audio distorted some? Many folks make the mistake of feeding a line level signal (-10 or +4 dBm) into a microphone level input (-50 dBm)? Analog (and digital) clipping can appear like brick-wall limiting on the waveform display. Sound Forge would not limit or peak normalize to -6.0 dBFS without the user initiating the process.
You could install the free 30 day trial version of AS-16 (or other recording software) to see if the same behavior happens, which would confirm an input stage issue.

KDeBoer wrote on 2/17/2022, 10:53 PM

Thank you for the info--I definitely didn't initiate the process, but it happened after I upgraded to 11, so it seems like something happened in that process? Yes, the audio sounds distorted if it gets to the "brick wall". I have a tech friend that I will run your suggestions past to see if he can figure it out!

johnebaker wrote on 2/18/2022, 6:36 AM

@KDeBoer

Hi

From the image and testing in AS 12.6 it looks like, as @rraud has hinted at, this is not limiting but overload of the signal level resulting in clipping.

Can you post a screenshot of the timeline showing the left end dB scale as shown below

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KDeBoer wrote on 2/18/2022, 9:46 AM

nicholas-Barton wrote on 2/18/2022, 10:43 AM

i had the email with product code to activate my copy... but like a idiot its been deleted is there anywhere i can find this code apart from that email????? anyone

rraud wrote on 2/18/2022, 11:42 AM

@nicholas-Barton, please start a new topic.

rraud wrote on 2/18/2022, 12:54 PM

With the fact that there is distortion as well, I am 99% sure there is clipping somewhere in the input stage. The input could have very likely been reverted to mic level when Win 11 was installed. Mic level is usually the default for external inputs on PC mounted sound cards.

KDeBoer wrote on 2/19/2022, 12:08 AM

Really appreciate your good info and plan to look into it all this weekend.