HEVC codec issue error even with codec already installed

Venkatesh-VTVT wrote on 8/31/2022, 10:07 AM

When i treid to run a video file shot with Nikon Z9 @120 fps in mov format in Movie studio 2023 Suite (version 22.0.3.152 ) i get an error message "Unfortunately the function HEVC codec is not available due to licensing conditions" (The same erro is displayed in two different computers)

How ever the same video file runs properly outside the Movie studio 2023 Suite (version 22.0.3.152 ) since the HEVC codec is already installed in the computer

.I am presently using a trial product & was planning to buy Suite veersion asap .There is also no error message when i run the same video file in any other video editor like Openshot or movavi in the computer

Now I am not too sure if the paid version (if i buy it) will be ok or not (ie display the same error message or not since most of my video files are shot with Nikon Z9 only)

Can some one please clarify what to do ?

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johnebaker wrote on 8/31/2022, 11:46 AM

@Venkatesh-VTVT

Hi

. . . . "Unfortunately the function HEVC codec is not available due to licensing conditions". . . . I am presently using a trial product . . . .

The full Magix HEVC codec does not become available for purchase, for a small fee, until you purchase the full version of the program.

. . . . How ever the same video file runs properly outside the. . . .

Unfortunately what happens in other editors and players has no relationship to what the program requires and does.

HTH

John EB
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Venkatesh-VTVT wrote on 8/31/2022, 12:10 PM

Has magix mentioned any where that the full codec would be made available once the full version is paid for & also any idea what is the small fee that magic charges for the codec

johnebaker wrote on 8/31/2022, 3:30 PM

@Venkatesh-VTVT

Hi

It is in the product specifications supported video formats which refer to the full version.

You will also find that when you try to export the length of video in the trial is limited IIRC to 3 minutes, this plus all the additional features, functions and templates become available on purchase of the full version.

I do not have the current fee for the HEVC codec the last time I had it it was about €8

HTH

John EB

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Venkatesh-VTVT wrote on 9/1/2022, 1:53 AM

@JohnEB

Thx for your help . My only concern was what to do if the purchased product does not work with my video files since there was no mention about it any where in the product purchase page

How ever thanks to your clarification I purchased the full product & the HEVC codecs got installed & activated ( with out asking for any payment though making some payment was not issue for me at all)

once again thx for your help

Venkatesh VT

Bryan-Frear wrote on 9/5/2023, 11:26 AM

Hello johnebaker. It seems this error still is showing up as of about a year ago. I'm trying this out on the trial license and was actually intending to purchase. However, there doesn't seem to be any guarantee that when I buy it outright, the codec will be included in that purchase which is strange and confounding.

I shot this video on my phone, like, I dunno, millions of people are doing. So you may want to change the verbiage on that error message or just include the dang codec. Most people won't take the time to write in these forums and would just say, oh well, it's broken. I'll try a different one. Especially if you're error isn't giving ANY sort of information to remediate the issue. All it says is essentially, sorry, your file won't work.

In case anyone else is here with the same issue, a workaround I've found is to re-record it using a different codec using a separate application. I just used the Microsoft Game Bar to record it again. Then it was able to load. Then had to crop out the windowed stuff. Not ideal but it is what it is if you ended up stuck with this app thinking the CODEC would be included. Sorry MAGIX, I'll keep my 8bucks.

Also, the response, "uh, we don't know why ALL the other applications are able to load your file" is strange. I've tried around 5 different video editing applications and this is the only one that couldn't load a file I shot on my phone. Your competitors have no issue loading these files, so, maybe take a few notes and try to be better? Or is what you're saying that adding that codec would make your application worse? I'm, again, confounded. Not mad about it, it's just very strange.

Thanks.

CubeAce wrote on 9/5/2023, 12:21 PM

@Bryan-Frear

Hi.

First, although @johnebaker is a forum moderator he is not an employee of Magix but just another user. These are user to user forums. Not a direct line to Magix or their employees. No-one there will probably see this post.

Second, the codec is included in the VPX edition of the program and all Pro versions of Vegas, but not the Movie Studio version so as to keep the initial price of the product down as not everyone needs it. The codec has never been free as it is the property of the people who created it. Some of those companies like Adobe were a part of that group and have the rights to use it without having to pay. Other companies have to pay for each licence used. They can include it in the price which pushes up the base price or decide to make it an option. Magix has obviously gone for the latter option. Also one has to have a stronger machine to cope with HEVC as opposed to using MP4 and Magix has tried to make their product useful on as many machines as possible for those trying to run older hardware. Not all 'other applications' have the same flexibility or options that Magix Movie Studio has so it's a case of swings and roundabouts. You are free to exercise a choice and have an opinion but if you wish Magix to take notice of your observations I suggest using their twitter account where I believe Magix staff do monitor the posts there.

Ray.

 

 

 

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Bryan-Frear wrote on 9/5/2023, 1:03 PM

@Bryan-Frear

Hi.

First, although @johnebaker is a forum moderator he is not an employee of Magix but just another user. These are user to user forums. Not a direct line to Magix or their employees. No-one there will probably see this post.

Second, the codec is included in the VPX edition of the program and all Pro versions of Vegas, but not the Movie Studio version so as to keep the initial price of the product down as not everyone needs it. The codec has never been free as it is the property of the people who created it. Some of those companies like Adobe were a part of that group and have the rights to use it without having to pay. Other companies have to pay for each licence used. They can include it in the price which pushes up the base price or decide to make it an option. Magix has obviously gone for the latter option. Also one has to have a stronger machine to cope with HEVC as opposed to using MP4 and Magix has tried to make their product useful on as many machines as possible for those trying to run older hardware. Not all 'other applications' have the same flexibility or options that Magix Movie Studio has so it's a case of swings and roundabouts. You are free to exercise a choice and have an opinion but if you wish Magix to take notice of your observations I suggest using their twitter account where I believe Magix staff do monitor the posts there.

Ray.

 

 

Hi Ray. Yeah, I get that. I'm just venting a bit but didn't mean to come across hostile. When I see something as easy as changing the wording on an error message and they leave it vague like that for a full year, I'm confounded and needed to get to the bottom of it. So I was just wondering if anyone else thought that was weird.

And yeah, I've found that people are very protective of the platform they eventually decide to land on. I get it. The issue isn't with the codec per-se. I get that a lot of them are proprietary and cost a lot of money and MAGIX's options are fairly priced as well as fairly light weight which I like. I was merely suggesting they add some context to the error message so it doesn't look broken when it's not.

All I did to test it out was film something with my phone, put it on my PC, then load it into the editor. Boom, error. I imagine this is, like 90% of what people are going to do when they use the trial. It's in MAGIX's best interest to probably look into it is all I'm saying.

Yes, I know this is a user forum, that is why I brought it up here. Users are usually more passionate about the application than the support staff (case in point) whom likely will not get back to me so I don't bother (especially since I haven't paid for it). I would hope that maybe folks could point me in a different direction away from MAGIX since it may not be right for me. Again, not a slight on the company. I like them, I actually have ACID as well as Sound Forge Pro. They bought those IP from Sony I believe and have kept the purchase/license model which is huge in my book. Subscriptions, with no cloud support seems like a money grab (and a lot of companies are going that route).

My quest has been to find the lightest weight video editing platform possible. Basically I'm looking to try and do everything on my laptop and possibly where there's no internet so an even more stripped down version would be amazing. Like, literally a console application that takes in a file telling it what to do. I don't want, nor use, any of the bells and whistles. Sometimes I just want to quickly cut out a lot of dead space and that's it I don't need to see every second of it in a preview.

CubeAce wrote on 9/5/2023, 2:36 PM

@Bryan-Frear

Hi Bryan.

I was merely suggesting they add some context to the error message so it doesn't look broken when it's not.

I think that is a fair comment. The program and contents are not flawless and I for one have complained many times about how things are laid out and explained on the Magix website. One has to keep revisiting it to know what the current state of affairs are. In truth, the lack of an HEVC codec is in the specs page.

On the other hand VPX used to have it for free but appears to be completely missing from the specs page for Video Pro X. So I don't know whether it has it or not. [Edited] It does if you also have an nvidia graphics card in your computer system. I just checked.

If that has gone and not available I think that could be a big mistake and I've only just noticed.

 

I have to remind myself that their advertising department is trying to sell against a tough general market and it's not like the competitors don't have similar discrepancies from time to time. There are loyal followers here but I would not class myself as one. My personal experiences have been that the program is fairly stable, all be it with a few annoying bugs and it's easy to work with. The problem with the HEVC codec is that while given away freely to phone companies and camera manufacturers and on screen video players to promote and increase its following, the money is in getting people to pay to edit the footage. That may slowly change now that the free av1 codec is becoming more widely available and available with VPX now supporting both import and export. The only problem with that is export it to where?

Video editing is a funny ol' pastime.

Ray.

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