many thanks for your prompt reply. I have been working my way through those tutorials but I can't find one that explains exactly how I do this, they all seem to refer to effects etc. that affect the screen as a whole but not how to isolate a specific area and use that as the basis for a new video. Or am I missing something? Maybe you could point me to a specific tutorial? thanks for your help

Barry

@Barrywhitebeard

Hi Barry,

I think that 2 pertinent videos are missing from the list, those on Basic Editing parts 1 and 2 (timeline editing like trimming). I suggest that you watch these:

John CB

@Barrywhitebeard

Hi Barry. Welcome to the user to user forums.

There are normally multiple ways something can be done within Movie Studio 2022.

With this one I would chose to use the size / position / rotation plugin. Simply reduce the size of the view of the clip in the monitor by using the hamburger menu in the top left hand corner of the monitor view. Say by 50%.

Then add the size / position / rotation effect to your desired clip. Pull on any corner of the overlay to expand clip to the wanted size and then grab it within the frame to reposition on the screen. Position can be changed throughout the clip by adding key frames and repositioning the clip if needed. Expand the view in the preview monitor back to 100% to see the results.

Ray.

many thanks for the replies, the help is greatly appreciated. I will investigate 😊

@browj2

Hi John

. . . . I think that 2 pertinent videos are missing from the list . . . .

Duly added.

John EB

@Barrywhitebeard

In my view, this is more easily achieved using the Camera/Zoomshot effect.

Click on the video to be cropped to highlight it.

In the View Animation Effects area, click on Camera/Zoomshot (do not click any of options in that effect; merely clicking the "Camera/Zoomshot" label invokes the basic effect).

A bounding box will appear around your video object. Simply drag to resize that bounding box to cover the area you want to crop/zoom in on. You can preview what it looks like by clicking the Preview button. Go back to editing the box by clicking on the same button (when it says Edit).

You can adjust the box size and position at will. You an also set up movement (the Ken Burns effect) by setting up the box, then setting a keyframe, then moving along the timeline, then changing the size and position of the box.

While you can use the actual Size Position and Rotation feature, I find it harder to manipulate/visualise the exact area to crop, as well as finding continually going in and out of the Preview window zoom to be more work than simply clicking on the Preview/Edit button.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray.

I have deleted your comments and my reply! Hope that's OK?

Jeff

@emmrecs

Hi Jeff.

I did want my question to Al answered 😆

@AAProds

Hi Al.

Was the problem with cropping dealt with? Not keeping individual crop settings within a project when there was more than one instance of cropping used?

Ray.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray.

My apologies for deleting too much!!!

Jeff

@CubeAce

Was the problem with cropping dealt with? Not keeping individual crop settings within a project when there was more than one instance of cropping used?

Ray, No. The "Section" effect is still borked. I'm using/suggesting the Camera/Zoomshot effect here.

@Barrywhitebeard

Barry, during your experimentation, you will see "Section" in the "View/Animation" effects group. Section is currently unuseable due to a known bug, which is unfortunate because that is exactly the effect you would be using for your task. In the (hopefully) interim, Camera/Zoom Shot works OK for cropping, although you can only crop to the ratio of the movie eg 4:3, 16:9, you can't crop square/1:1.

One more point (I am a slow leaner). To preview your cropping/panning, as well as hitting the Preview button, you can also hit Play and the Preview mode will automatically be invoked.

Greetings all,

I agree that section "is still borked" (what a quaint expression Al) however there is a way round it.

After setting the section and going into Camera/zoom to apply zooming animation you find the Section is not quite right, when you go back to section we know that the image or clip section setting is reset to its original size . If you then click on Undo the section is reset again to the setting you originally created without losing the zoom effect. Sometimes you have to click on Undo a couple of times or so.

Apologies for that bieng a bit "wordy" but I've only had one cup of tea so far this morning.

AndyW

@me_again @AAProds

.....borked" (what a quaint expression Al)

Must be for when the Borkels fall off!

Definitely a Kanga' expression Andy.

Peter

Many thanks for all your help. Now I have had time to investigate, yes the main thing I want to use the program for is bugged, it does work using the section effect if you set it and then render at once. It wouldn't seem to me a big problem to fix it? But what do I know. Anyway, I'll be going back to the old version for most my of my work until it gets fixed.....

@Barrywhitebeard

Barry, as I said, just use Camera/Zoomshot. Set up your selection area and leave it. Don't use any of the Camera/Zoomshot sub-effects.

You can go back to it later and re-adjust the selection area if needed.

I'm still using Movie Edit Pro Plus 16, and since recently migrating to Windows 10 (ok I'm behind the times), the "Image size/position" and "Section" functions are not working properly. They used to kinda work together in Win 7 though very cranky. I used that to set up shots like in the attached screen shot using video cameras from different angles: for this, I would first select a section from one of several videos (in Section) and then go to Image size/position and place the image(s) where I want them. Now this was always notoriously cranky and buggy (especially the vertical section) but it worked. Now in Win 10, it doesn't work at all. If I create a section, then as soon as I try to edit the position or size using the size/position controls, it resets the section info. And you can't store the section info as a keyframe. Hopeless.

Now, ok, this is 6 year old software, and I don't expect a bug fix (though I live in hope), but I figure, well, maybe time to upgrade to the latest version. But lo and behold, at least as far as I can gather from the discussion above, it seems all this time later this is still the same sort of bug in the most recent software. Unless someone can confirm that this is a bug that is fixed, I'm sorry, but after over a decade of Magix movie use, I'll very regretfully just have to abandon this ship.

Can someone confirm or correct me here?

@drewmo @Barrywhitebeard

I can confirm that it appears that the section bug has been fixed with the 165 patch to MMS 2023. The sections hold on all images/videos, including when SPR is applied and adjusted with the controls or when the objects are dragged about. So that's one gripe fixed.

Could others confirm Section works OK now?

Could others confirm Section works OK now?

It seems to at the moment

AndyW

Hey guys, thanks for getting back to me on that so quickly - that's good to know. As I don't expect bugs on the old software ever to be fixed, I guess I'll have to stump for the upgrade. Odd that it worked ok on Win7,but not on Win 10 but still. One other question (sorry, I know I'm off topic here) but anyone know if projects in the older versions are compatible with the newest version? Thanks again :)

@drewmo

Hi.

Programs that were written with Direct X9 0r 11.1 in use at the time can't always make use of rewrites to the code in Direct X12 ultimate. Sometimes it is not always the fault of the program but changes in the operating system. Legacy products seldom get rewrites because of changes to operating systems.

This is why the market for good high end Win 98 computers and floppy drive units are in high demand and command good prices at present. To keep industries CNC machines and other hardware running.

To keep old programs running smoothly you really need the appropriate operating system and possibly, the hardware to go with it.

Ray.

hey CubeAce, many thanks, ah, what you say about the DirectX drivers makes sense (to me at any rate!). If you factor in the fact that my PC is now about 8 years old, probably moving to Win10 was a stretch. Fortunately, I installed it as a dual boot with a fresh Magix install, keeping the old Win7 installation and program in place, so I can, as you say, revert back to the old OS to preserve the old files (I did that mainly to maintain my old Samplitude 11 audio program when I installed the new Samp ProX6 in the new OS, a nightmare all by itself... but that's another story). Probably time for a new PC as well as new software :)

@drewmo

Interesting.

I am running Cubase 4 on Win 10 Enterprise with no compatibility problems. I did have to upgrade the software on the dongle but other than that all is golden. Runs well too even if it can't take advantage of multi threading and has a 4GB limit on imported sound files. I can still find compatible plugins for it as well.

Ray.

@drewmo

If you factor in the fact that my PC is now about 8 years old, probably moving to Win10 was a stretch.

Don't be easily deterred; Windows 10 is running like clockwork on my gutless i5 from 2011. I preferred Win 7's interface, but as far as performance goes, Win 10 is just as good, and Microsoft continues to improve it (now Win 10 version 22H2).